>>4865
>In antiquity there was little to no distinction between religion and civic life
In Christianity there is little to no distinction between religion and daily life. You are not to put God in a box and only take Him out on Sundays. We live and breathe our faith in even the smallest things we do (or at least we are supposed to). Whether we are in church, at work or with friends and family, we are practising Christianity when we love others. When we forgive our co-workers for messing up, we are practising Christianity. When we offer up a prayer before dealing with a difficult person, we are practising Christianity. When we help our friend move his stuff, we are practising Christianity. In all things there is the opportunity to practise Christianity. Notice how many of these involve other people. This shouldn't be surprising since we are commanded to love our neighbours as ourselves. IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE A FULL PRACTICE OF CHRISTIANITY WITHOUT INVOLVING OTHER PEOPLE. In church too there is communal involvement. Going to church is an inherently communal activity and there's a reason why you can't "do church" at home. It's because you need other people. One of the things all Christians (in theory) believe is the communion of the saints. Meaning that all Christians both on Earth and in Heaven are in mystical communion through Christ. This occurs through the sacrament of the eucharist which is why it's also called communion. The entirety of the Church is saved together as one and we are to love and help each other on our life's journey. We are not plucked out and saved individually but rather drawn into the community of the Church and saved collectively. However, people are not doomed to one fate or the other because of the rest of their Earthly communities. In that sense an individual may choose to go against his family and become a Christian. Why shouldn't this be the case? Why should people be held prisoner in the darkness just because their communities won't follow them into the light?
>I bring not peace but a sword
How blind can you be? Are we not right now brothers at war?
I am a white anglo by the way Is there not division between us? This is exactly what Jesus was talking about. Feel free to BEGOME CHRISTIAN and end this division right now but we can not stop speaking the truth just because it causes conflict between people. The truth always does that. Nevertheless, even in our opposition to both you and the secular world, we never fall to hating you. Even as you spit in our face, we must smile back because our goal is not to destroy you but to be united with you in Christ. What about yourselves? Do you not speak the truth (as you see it) even as the world cries "Nazi! Nazi!" Is there not enmity between you and your brothers - even within your own families - over your beliefs? You fucking hypocrites! And worse, what is your response? To cast off your own brothers as worthless impediments. How Volkisch indeed.
>>4760
And now back to communism. What communes are you talking about? The utopic ones in the 18th century? Let's be clear. The Church is not an NGO. It is not the Church's job to bring about a utopia and that includes yours. This is a truth all non-Christians seem to struggle with. It is impossible not just for the Church but for humans in general to bring about a utpoia. All utopias are dystopias. It is not our job to enact any particular political, economic or social situation on Earth. The Jews killed Jesus specifically because he refused to do this. He refused to be a conquering saviour and smite the Romans and bring about Jewish political rule. This is what the Pharisees wanted. Therefore, any attempt towards a utopian society must be view at the very least with suspicion by the Christian. But it's not just because it's not the Church's job. The very core of Christianity is that we need God. Not only do we need Him generally because we were created to be in relation with Him but we need Him specifically because we have violated our relations with Him and with each other and
we are not able by ourselves to remedy this. God is the one making us and all creation new. God is the one bringing Heaven down to Earth. We cannot do this ourselves. All utopian ideals are a rejection of the very core of Christianity by thinking that mankind can bring about its own salvation and paradise. As I said, the Church is not an NGO and I think it should be clear why it can never become one. As Jesus said: His kingdom is not of this world.