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>>the apostles and those validly ordained through succession alone have the right to confer grace via the Holy Spirit
>all the churches of the world have forsaken their faith in God
>we are all condemned because no one has the right to forgive sins anymore
>Christians are not chosen by God to follow Him
>nobody has the Holy Spirit
I don't see how you got that out of the post you were responding to.
Grace
Catholics believe in different kinds of grace: there's the grace of belief, and sanctifying grace which cleans you of the stain of sin.
Grace of belief comes straight from God when you are ready to accept Him as your God, Creator and Lord.
Sanctifying grace cleans one from sin and comes from one of three sacraments: baptism, penance, or last unction.
In the Catholic belief, Christian baptism replaces Jewish circumcision and Christian confirmation replaces Jewish Baptism. Which is why protestants get confused as to whey Catholic baptize babies shortly after birth and have no knowledge of Christian teachings. To be confirmed requires Christian teaching, but I digress.
Anyone, even a pagan, can baptize if their intent is to mark the Soul as belonging to God. Most protestant denomiations are accepted as baptized as the Protestants baptized them. The Mormons specifically aren't and there are others.
But only a Bishop can give the sacrament of confirmation. The bishop can quiz those to be confirmed about the faith: the required prayers, the commandments, etc but they usually leave that up to the Priest who taught the catechism.
yes, all the Churches of the world have forsaken their faith in God
It's not the first time the Church of the Lord was forsaken by their faith in God. Christ came because the Jews replaced the Law of Moses and the Torah with their man made Talmud.
Catholics replaced the Bible and papal encyclicals with the Summa Theologica and Marion Apperitions.
And protestants replaced the Bible and The Church with the man made writings of Luther, Calivin, King Henry the Head chopper of wives, etc.
It's not enough to just believe Jesus Christ is the son of God. not if you blow off some of his teachings you don't like e.g. Matthew 16 & John 21 because you don't want to be a "Papist" and you want to believe what you want instead.
We are condemned because no one has the right to forgive sins anymore
Christ delegated that right to the apostles. Once forgiven, even the devil can't bring it up again. Catholic do believe in purgatory, where souls who are forgiven their sins are still punished e.g. Mrs. Claymore forgives you for breaking her window when you were playing baseball; you were repentant and promised to be more careful in the future, but YOU still have to pay for the window.
What happens because there is no one to give the sacrement? I don't know. Someone here said scripture says that in the end times, it's acceptable just to be baptized. I found that remarkable at the time, but I want to read it in my own Bible. Since I reject the false Gospel of Aquinas, mortal sins are really grave: adultery, Murder, theft, bearing false witness, not honoring your mother and father, or not loving your neighbor.
Matthew 19
16 And behold one came and said to him: Good master, what good shall I do that I may have life everlasting? 17 Who said to him: Why asketh thou me concerning good? One is good, God. But if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He said to him: Which? And Jesus said: Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness. 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20 The young man saith to him: All these I have kept from my youth, what is yet wanting to me? 21 Jesus saith to him: If thou wilt be perfect, go sell what thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come follow me.
You choose God because God gave you free will'
You have free will. YOU choose to follow God. A young man asked Christ what he needed to do to obtain eternal life. The Lord quoted the 7 commandments - the ones that cover "Love thy neighbor". Young man said he did this, so Christ invited the young man to give up his possession and follow him. The young man decided not to.
The young man was invited to be a disciple, a priest. To that, he had to give up worldly processions. He chose not to. He had, by keeping the Law of Moses in the last 7 commandments would be promised heaven.
This idea that God has chosen you so you are free to sin, I saw that in a Pentecostal fellow.
Not everyone has the Holy Spirit
Correct. The Lord breathed the Holy Spirit into the Apostles, those that had already accepted him and would be martyred for him. Not everyone. Each leader of the one of the thousands of Protestant denominations believes they have the Holy Spirit, yet they all preach something different, so that can't be! The God the Holy Spirit has one truth! Not thousands of different and conflicting truths.
Best the un-ordained can hope for is grace.