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Defeating sexual desires Anonymous 11/04/2021 (Thu) 19:15:55 No.1789
Hello anons. My heart is somewhat heavy as I write this, I do not have anyone that I feel comfortable sharing this with so I am coming here under the cover of anonymity to exchange my thoughts and seek yours on this subject. Given that: Masturbation is a sin Sex outside of marriage is a sin Engaging in prostitution is a sin As a man I have a natural sex drive I would like help and advice on defeating my sexual desires without committing sin. If I abstain from masturbation, I can refrain from engaging in sexuality for around a period of a week with little difficulty. After that initial 1 week period, it starts to encompass my whole life. I have an erection when I wake up every morning, and I get more throughout the day, at least one an hour and more if I have to interact with any girl under 30. I pray for help in keeping the sexual thoughts away, but it feels like I'm fighting a losing battle and I will relapse at some point no matter what. The longest I've been able to abstain from anything sexual was when I was an atheist and I lasted around a year. After a period of a few months, paradoxically my whole life was concerned with sex, I was not having orgasms however the only thing I had on my mind every day was "I need to find a girl to have sex with" (which never worked), everything was secondary to that. It culminated with me getting cock-teased by a girl I was exchanging with for around a week, getting fed up when I realized I was just getting taken along for a ride then seeking the services of a prostitute, which broke my abstinence and made me lose my virginity, if that concept even exists for a man. I regret the choices I made. After this chapter in my life, I concluded that the healthiest thing to do was to masturbate once a month to get it out of my system and to be able to live my life without being entranced by sex all the time. Eventually I relapsed and was engaging with porn at least 10 times a week, until I found the faith which helped knock it back down to something more reasonable like 2-4 times a month. However, sin is sin and I would like to be fully rid of it. I know that the simplest answer is to marry a girl, whoever that does not appear to be possible for me (it appears that my fate is to be an incel which I've come to terms with), so it seems like I've come to an impasse. I can't masturbate without committing sin, and I don't have a way to relieve myself of those sexual desires legitimately. However, if I don't relieve myself of it, it quickly starts to take over my life (I had begun to call the action of masturbation "satiating the beast" in my head). I don't know what to do. I remember seeing this anon who castrated himself on old 8chan years ago and thought he had lost his mind then, though now every day I start to understand more and more why he wanted to be rid of his sexual desires. Additional question: Why did God give me (and other men) such a strong sex drive and at the same time put me and a lot of other men (40% of men under 30 reported no sex in the past year in a study around 2018 I believe and that was before the corona lockdowns which must have made that number shoot up even more) in an era where it is extremely difficult to rid yourself of this desire without committing sin?
>>1789 >I would like help and advice on defeating my sexual desires without committing sin. You are stuck in your head. Demons obviously like to visit you there and persuade you away from God and into gratifying your sensual pleasures. What you can do is to start doing 'Jesus prayer'. Just keep repeating 'Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me' without ceasing. At first repeat it aloud, then in your mind and finally you should be able to keep repeating it in your heart. This will protect your intellect from distraction and render it impregnable to diabolic attacks. >Additional question: Why did God give me (and other men) such a strong sex drive Because you are a being of flesh and soul thus you have fleshy desires and your free will is always tested. Would you rather have one tremendous test on specific time in life or a lifetime of learning and getting further to God?
>>18350 Forgot to add this
>>18350 >flesh is bad lmao if flesh was bad in the first place God would not have made it. The desire to sin is the turning of the flesh against its natural purpose
Is it possible to expunge specific thoughts/fantasies from your mind or is it all over for me?
>>18355 Gay thoughts again anon? Don't worry, pray to the Lord, and know that if it is not His will to grant it in this life you will be free of it in the next.
im having pedophilistic thoughts, in my case should i apply the same principles towards women with little girls? like dont looking at them or photos of them? >also please pray for me i really want to be delivered from this
>>18374 You should avoid causes of lust in general. Praying for you brother
>>18374 >/christian/ goes on a crusade shilling on IBs >userbase are self-hating brown gay pedo trannies wew lad
>>18374 Is this the pedo spammer? Did he finally repent?
>>18418 thanks, brother >>18419 sick people are the ones that need a doctor >>18430 no, im not that guy, i was actually thinking about going to those sites and preach but i will probably get banned and doxxed
>>18442 >i was actually thinking about going to those sites and preach Please don't go to child porn sites
>>18419 It's no different than anti-gay republicans being exposed as filthy drug addicted sodomites, they do not practice what they preach. >>18442 >sick people are the ones that need a doctor See the wounded healer archetype >In Greek mythology, the centaur Chiron was a "Wounded Healer", after being poisoned with an incurable wound by one of Hercules's arrows. Jung mentioned the Chiron myth "wounding by one's own arrow means, first of all, the state of introversion" >For Jung, "a good half of every treatment that probes at all deeply consists in the doctor's examining himself... it is his own hurt that gives a measure of his power to heal. This, and nothing else, is the meaning of the Greek myth of the wounded physician." >no, im not that guy, i was actually thinking about going to those sites and preach but i will probably get banned and doxxed You are sick, you have not healed yourself yet and you think you can cure the masses, you are a pathetic pedophile and a larper.
>>18450 ok,sorry... >>18451 and your point is?
>>18451 Jung and Greek mythology is pagan. Begone heathen.
What do you guys do about the porn flashbacks? I get such strong mental images and if I don't nip it in the bud immediately, the fantasizing, it leads to me having a relapse. Any tips on how to conquer this would be much appreciated
>>18451 >archetypes Take your meds schizo
relapsed again, didn't jack off but indulged in a lot of porn. pray for me please.
>>2487 Murder is inevitable, and should therefore be allowed but regulated
>>15140 TransPunk?
>>20501 >>20508 Be careful gayanon, the mods are watching.
not gay, andi only ask because the images he's posting are eerily similar to someone i knew a long time ago
>>20501 This website hosts porn. If your serious about not sinning then don't come to this site.
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I said on an IRC channel that I loved Virgin Mary so someone linked art tagged with virgin_mary on Danbooru so I looked up the tag out of curiosity to see other art and found a lot of porn and heresy. Am I fucked? I deliberately didn't set it to only show SFW stuff so I am partly guilty, but there were "heresyologists" in the early Church so... and my intention wasn't to beat off to it or anything, just curiosity. I didn't really think it through very long... I'm Catholic so if it's sinful I'll have to confess to my priest about it, and I can't even imagine how I would explain something like that.
>>20608 But to clarify I did not beat off to any of it nor did it even provoke lust or anything. I felt bad and quickly clicked out of it.
>>20608 >>20609 Same here, i regreted clicking on the blacked booru link that was posted here months ago. >I did not beat off i did
>Masturbation is a sin No it isn't. That's just a reading comprehension fail of the Onan story.
>>1789 >Defeating sexual desires >Be autistic enough to actually do this >Get old >Be alone >Realize it's all bs and NO ONE who is in a "loving relationship" or has a family did this >ABSOLUTELY F*KING NOOOOOOOOOO ONNNNNNNNNNE!* Even the sweetest innocent holy-holy ones. >Re-read Bible >King David dozens of sex partners and multiple wives. God is OK with this. >Solomon - 1000+ fk buddies. God is OK with this. >Abram - wife + mistress. God is OK with this. >Israel - 2 wives + 2 mistresses. God is OK with this. Creating a family requires sexual activity prior to a marriage ceremony (i.e. what is normally defined wrongly as "fornication"). If you don't she will believe you're not interested in her or gay. Shit suxxs, but hey I didn't make the rules. Sex is actually marriage. What you call "marriage ceremony" is only a public ritual of what those couples are already doing in private. *Anyone married with kids who says they didn't fool around/cheat on/date on the side with someone else before settling is telling you they are a liar. It's that simple. Just be smart and think your head (=love) more than your dick (=lust).
>>20711 >Anyone married with kids who says they didn't fool around/cheat on/date on the side with someone else before settling is telling you they are a liar that doesnt mean doing it wasnt wrong. WAIT AND STOP CUMMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
>>20640 Lust is a sin, Anon. Let's not make excuses for our sins, but abstain from sexual immorality.
>>20640 The law of Moses says Masturbation is a venial sin. You're not put to death for it, but you are unclean until nightfall and have to do a penance.
Only for infidelity?
>>1789 >>20713 >that doesnt mean doing it wasnt wrong. 1. Be right. Never know human-human love. Get condemned for no love. 2. Be wrong. Experience human-human love. Get blessed for loving. Those are your two choices. I chose 1, and got condemned by all for not loving. Everyone else chose 2, and got blessed with family + prosperity to a greater/lesser degree.
>>20756 Schizos and autistics are already incapable of experiencing human love so they have to use some form of self-righteous virtue signaling to feel better about it.
>>20756 >>20760 i experimented a deep love with a girlsometime ago, i end up creeping her out and decide to escape from here, knowing that im an inmoral man that will only corrupt her i abstain from being with her, not wanting to scare her nor wanting to fall in inmorality with her is that love or selfishness? if i dont have love as it says in corinthians 13 i go to hell? if i cant feel love (yet) i go to hell?
>>20773 >love maybe it was just lust idk
>>20760 >Schizos and autistics are already incapable of experiencing human lust >gods are already incapable of experiencing human lust obviously, you degenerate. gods find fornication unnatural because they are gods. the fact you unconsciously conflate "lust" with "love" shows up your carnal mind clearer than if you had it written in a branding mark upon your forehead.
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The Bible gives one solution to burning lust. Paul says get married. That's it. He says if you don't have self-control over this, get married. So I would focus on that. "Ooooh that's impossible I'll never find someone." Are not all things possible with God? You foolish unbeliever, so pray on this. There are places and ways of meeting women and it might be long-distance but I would suggest looking of course for someone in your territory. I believe if you both are communicating in real-time together and having pleasure it's okay, looking at another woman in lust is sin, but I also say masturbating by yourself to images of your wife is not okay either. Most people who think they're "destined to be celibate monk" are not, they just live in a terrible society that cucks them from the opposite sex. Also get married before engaging in any sexual thing, you don't need a ceremony and certainly not the go-ahead from the secular atheist government. If you step out in confidence and faith it's really not a big deal and it will last. You are a little peanut afterall. Paul says further in not the same words: What is marriage, all this world will be faded soon and we have so much concern and care for every detail of this world and ignore the simplicity. Observe OP's fatalism. See how satan has one up'd him and given him a black eye. tsk tsk tsk. Now I'm not here to talk down of course. But To say that for many the solution is indeed to find a girl and not be fatalistic about it and doom and gloom about it but do be careful and be quick to marriage. If she isn't quick to simple marriage then that is sign to stay away. Because once married one partner must commit sin to end it.
>>21212 this faggot retard weab is the loser janny who deletes everything that triggers Xher
>>21268 No I am not, of the three people using this board I am not him or you, my posts got deleted too. And you seem to be very upset. I would calm down because you're using foul language and blaspheming me and probably others. You talk like that to me again I might start posting even more anime, because I can and am allowed to and it is not sin. Nothing "official" should have anime, the board owner should not have stickied anime stuff but should only use photos. That's what I would do if board owner, because when you're a leader you have more responsibilities to set examples. But feel free to rant and rage at the anime, I hope you've spent at least some other time to day with more important things.
>>21273 A good way to think about it is; if you want to be pastor of a church and you really like anime, I don't want to see your "Christian anime" poster on the window of the church. Someone comes in with some christian anime T-shirt okay, but you the pastor have more responsibility. Hmm? Yes. You say: "ahh but no it's a cultural thing futaba imageboards are culturally animeic and therefore buh buh" Disagree. I think anon.cafe is not inheritably animeic and /christian/ makes no indication by name that it is anime culture and I don't see a reason a need for it or that it need be. No one ever knows what they're doing and the only people who lead in this society are people who should be following but have a haughty mind.
I know that through God all things are possible, but sexual sin really does seem insurmountable. I've been able to give up other addictions, including alcohol and tobacco, relatively easy. In those cases it was easy, I think, because the object of addiction was avoidable. In order to not drink, I merely had to avoid buying alcohol and cigarettes. This was shockingly easy for me. Sure, I definitely had a strong craving for those things, especially in the first couple of weeks. Hell, I still have plenty of moments where I crave a drink, or a smoke. Nonetheless, I have been able to conquer these with relative ease, and these things have very little power or appeal except in occasional moments of weakness. I also used to be very overweight and binge on food. This too I overcame, albeit a lot more slowly. Still, I was able to lose about 25 kilograms (about 55 pounds) over a year. I've put on a little bit of weight since then, but generally speaking I'm a lot better than I once was. I'm not saying all of this to toot my own horn, but rather to point out that I generally have pretty good self control. I'm no ascetic, and I'm certainly not immune to desires and wants, but I have been able to work at and conquer these sorts of desires in the past. It may be painful, and unpleasant, and I might stumble, but I will make progress. That's the way most everything in my life has been. Sexual sins and desires, however, seem to be a completely different beast. Sexual desires feel innate to me in a way that no other sinful desire is. I can feel them in my marrow. Unlike alcohol, tobacco etc. there is no way to avoid all contact with sexual thoughts and acts, as sexual organs are an integral part of the human body and sexual thoughts seem to be an integral part of the mind. It'd be like if an alcoholic had a bottomless vodka bottle attached to his hip at all times, and if getting drunk was necessary for procreation and the continuation of the human race. What's more, the one legitimate outlet for relief from these desires is now closed to me, possibly forever. Unlike the other anons in here who've struggled to find love, I'm already married. However, my wife told me a week ago that she no longer wants to have sex with me as she doesn't have a libido, and the sexual act itself is unpleasant and somewhat painful for her. She also said it wasn't my fault as a partner. I'm a good husband, I work full time, I help around the house, and I'm attentive to her needs. Without being too graphic, she also said it's not any failing on my part as a lover, and she's always praised me for being very attentive in that regard. Basically, despite all my efforts, I probably won't ever have sex again. If I do, those occasions will be very few and far between. At this point I'm completely lost as I feel like I've tried everything including Saint Paul's advice to get married. I'll pray more and try more, but I think this is the one kind of sin that will haunt me to my grave and beyond. I hope and pray for deliverance and forgiveness, but unfortunately I have a hard time believing I'll get much of either.
>>22607 Lord help you. I think the solution is obvious, get married. I don't mean "fire" your current wife, continue to care and provide for her. But the simple fact is you need a sexually-functioning wife, and you are well within your rights as a devout Christian to take a second wife. The only admonition Biblically-speaking is that you shouldn't do so if you are a church leader. The turmoil of keeping multiple women under your roof together is the reason for the guidance, btw. I know polygamy is highly-frowned on in the completely-pozzed feminist West, but w/e. It's Biblical, and that's certainly a higher authority.
>>22609 Thanks for reading and replying anon. We're going to investigate exhaust any potential underlying physical or mental causes before I would even dare to seriously bring up polygamy. It's something I might bring up in future though. Thanks anyway anon. I normally hate these kinds of self pitying blog posts, but being able to get this off my chest did actually help. God bless.
>>22615 You too Anon. I'll pray you find an effective solution in the new year. Cheers.
>>22607 Going to completely ignore what >>22609 suggested in regards to polygamy, as it is most certainly not advocated by God (people bring up Daniel all the time, the way the Bible mentions it simply states it as a historical fact rather than it being ok, marriage is and always will be between one man and one woman, no more, no less, no different). Talk with your wife. Why does sex make her uncomfortable? Does it cause her physical pain? Does it bring up emotional turmoil from some past experience? Marriage is a contract between a man and a woman; your body belongs to her, and hers to yours. If one of them is not holding up their end of the contract, there could be other underlying reasons as well. It could also be a medical issue, if she used to have a sex drive but no longer does that may be hinting at something larger. And finally, God forbid, she may be seeing someone else and merely no longer wants to have sex with you. There are a lot of reasons, some legitimate, some scary to think about, but ultimately I believe you two should seek counseling, from both the Church and other sources, to find out what the ultimate issue is.
>>22607 >I'm attentive to her needs My friend, that is the problem. You are pleasure-oriented for your wife. She sounds egoistical, mentally damaged and she has not attraction towards you. Denying her body to you is a grave sin and constitutes marriage-fraud. She has no reason to deny her body just because she does not feel like it. An incel has it better than you right now. Women are fundamentally servile to and want to please men all the time. If you gave too many occasions for her to feel the opposite it is natural she will despise you and deny sex. The time of reperation will be long and you need to realize you are too soft with your wife.
>>22607 >she doesn't have a libido, and the sexual act itself is unpleasant and somewhat painful same old history, sorry brother but she does have a libido, but you arent attractived to her anymore
>>22607 rekindle the love. you know what i mean.
Matthew 22:37-39 ''37 Jesus said to him: Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind. 38 This is the greatest and the first commandment. 39 And the second is like to this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.'' Romans 13:9 9 For Thou shalt not commit adultery: Thou shalt not kill: Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness: Thou shalt not covet: and if there be any other commandment, it is comprised in this word, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Clearly, God and Church teaches us, in scripture since the Law of Moses, that it is a mortal sin to harm someone else. If you love God you keep the first three commandments, and if you believe in the Lord you keep the 7 to not harm your neighbor. It's why I have an issue and reject the false gospel of Aquinas; he changes this teaching and made a mortal sin out of the slightest temptation. You can mortally sin, according to Aquinas, with nothing more than an impure thought. You are damned to hell, according to Aquinas, for sins that harms no one. Aquinas said that thoughts of sex are a sin against your own body and thus a sin against the Church, and thus you are damned. This is not what Pope Saint Pius X taught in his catechism, and if a Pope says, then no "saint" or church father can change it. You have to go by the teachings of the True Popes™. And the law of Moses says that Masturbation - the spilling of your seed, is not a mortal sin. You didn't get stoned for it. You did your penance and were unclean until evening i.e. the rest of the day. It doesn't break the bond you have with God as adultery might.
>>16268 Yeah I'm right here B) Seriously, though, absolutely. I think most men (especially those who aren't extremely online) are like that underneath, but there's a lot of pressure on people who want to be "normal" to (for example) support prostitution or pornography as acceptable even if they don't partake in it themselves. Obviously there are also a lot of coomers who genuinely do like those things. If you're looking for one specifically though, they probably hang around churches.

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