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Anonymous 05/24/2022 (Tue) 01:39:55 No.11599
There seems to be a multitude of users on imageboards stuck living generally broken lives. How can /christian/ minister to this?
>>11691 >>11692 >>11699 I'd say you have to go back. Have you forgotten where you're at? >>11730 How is this relevant to the thread Anon?
>>11110 If we can get back on track and reply to OP, this would be a start.
>>11599 all you really can do is present God and try and help them through whatever theyre going through. Unfortunately its up to them to decide what they want to do.
>>11766 >present God What does that even mean?
>>11767 present the Bible
>>11767 >What does that even mean? Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give. https://biblehub.com/sermons/matthew/10-8.htm
>>11685 It really seems to me like you're both denying the (transcendent) divinity of God and leibniz' solution to the mind-body problem. In particular, you seem to be putting consciousness somewhere outside of the scope of God. Is your post just going completely over my head? What am I not getting here? Is your conclusion something like the old god-as-the-world? Where the fuck are thoughts? >No, omniscience is just knowledge of everything that exists. >Knowledge of all possibilities in the sense you're using it is almost vacuous, except it includes perfect knowledge of mathematics/logic. How could the former definition not include the later components? Where is logic stored? I can attempt to actually address your points but I don't think I'm going to get very far as it stands. It reads to me that you've totally ignored the questions about sin in the presence of God and have decided instead to write about your personal position of on the definition of omniscience v. perfection that nobody has ever taken before (for good reason) and pretty much everything about the problem of evil from >>11681 remains unaddressed.
>>11734 >every image board is a safe space for weabtrannies I do not care where I am, you worship underage anime girls.
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>>12500 >you worship underage anime girls that's supposed to be a bad thing?
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>>12526 >Asuka no mother?
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My life is pretty dysfunctional right now but I know it's darkest before the dawn and Jesus will lead me out. I love God and am grateful for His word and pray for all His children
All we can do is open the door, it's up to them to walk through it. No amount of evidence or based and redpilled aspects to Christianity will convince those stuck in their ways.
We should try to help others in a friendly manner. For example: if someone makes a comment on a video and is saying that they're feeling bad about their porn addiction, then we can reply to that comment and say that we understand and then we can give them a lesson, like how to be an alpha in control of your flesh and not the other way around, and then at the end of the message, in a separate paragraph, we could leave a short, useful phrase from the bible. No-one is kind or understanding/helpful anymore, so people will respond to those shining their light.
>>12589 Dr. Hugh Ross asked the 700+ audience at The Skeptic's Conference held at Cal Tech (his Post-Doc Alma mater) "If I could present to you irrefutable, overwhelming, evidence that the God of the Bible was in fact the Author of all creation, how many of you would be willing to reconsider your Atheistic philosophies?" Only 2/3rds of the audience raised their hands. To wit 1/3rd of unbelievers are adamantly committed to their adherence to the Atheistic world-view. They literally are convinced of their delusions.
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>There seems to be a multitude of users on imageboards stuck living generally broken lives. You have to be to browse imageboards. Even if you seem normal there is something wrong with you if you use imageboards. >How can /christian/ minister to this? It's not our job to. At best we can be like the missionaries of old and willingly martyr ourselves trying to show anon the way, but if you yourself are not a Christian prepared to walk among pagans, you will find yourself overwhelmed soon enough.
>>11599 We cannot do anything about it, as we are all genetic dead-ends, my wife just cucked me for her nordic pagan bf.
>>14306 >We cannot do anything about it, as we are all genetic dead-ends The disabled folk tend to be the one of the happiest people, anon. >my wife just cucked me for her nordic pagan bf. If you're an Orthodox you should divorce her immediately.
>>14306 >her nordic pagan bf that was me lol
>>15145 Mudslime shill bottombitch tranime faggot kike
>>15148 seethe cuck
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>when the retard spammers bump a genuinely good post
>>11599 this world is broken and jesus will come
>>11599 Well, imageboard users like "anime girls", so we can use Christ-chan to spread our ideas to them!
>>15334 Does Astolfo and felix count as an anime "girls", because s(he) is very christian and very cute.
>>15342 What is so christian about man having pink hair, squeaky voice and presenting himself as a woman? Does he overcome this and become normal? Sorry but many people loved and recommended this anime when it came out but I couldn't finish it because I hated it especially astolfo.
>>15369 the guy who posted that likes femboys. Ive never seen the anime but im pretty sure the character never becomes normal.
>>15342 Read about the real Astolfo the paladin of Charlemagne and slayer of Mohammedans. The eternal Jap wants to subvert your manhood.
>>15378 What actually are paladins? i only have video game interpretations of healing magic Templars.
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>>15379 They were the legendary knights of the Holy Roman Empire who fought against the Muslim invaders of Spain. The Russians also have a version.
>>15395 arent they fiction?
>>15402 They are cool
>There seems to be a multitude of users on imageboards stuck living generally broken lives. How can /christian/ minister to this? well to develop the tactics necessary to solve this problem we must first understand some basics of human psychology and from there we can asses the situation and plan. Ill be basing everything off my own self observations and observations ive made of others so everything i will say is subject to debate. Contrary to popular belief humans are remarkably hard to change. Believe it or not but just telling someone to believe something (no matter how you dress it) doesnt work. Our beliefs are largely instilled in us during the developmental years of our life, either by our parents, education, or friends, that being said our beliefs can still be changed depending on our social group (friends, family, etc), mental state, and gender. Social groups have the least effect (particularly on men) as people will typically choose their social group based off ideas and beliefs they already hold. Your mental state by far has the greatest effect on your beliefs especially when you are in a moment of fear or desperation, this is why at one point communism controlled half the world and why we see people with severe porn addictions and depression falling for gay and tranny propaganda. And lastly your gender has an effect on your psychology too, women are generally more pressurable by society then men are. Typically tho youll see some kind of combination of all of these methods of persuasion out in the wild. So whats the take away here? Well unless you can manage to somehow infiltrate the education system and begin spreading pro-Christian doctrine to kids, youre gonna have a hard time helping people. Thankfully tho we're talking about things within the context of imageboards and most of the people on imageboards are depressed, porn addicted, lonely, losers, who are in a desperate state of mind. Thus making them more open to other beliefs. But still we have the problem of how we go about spreading to them the word of God. Well the only effective way is to tell them the word of God in all its glory and greatness. And i dont just mean hand pick a couple of chapters about salvation from the Gospel i mean show them the true glory of the Bible. Read them the Law, explain it to them if necessary, tell them about how God loves them and wants them to His friend, tell them how God's commandments can change and improve their life, tell them the story of Jesus and explain to them His sacrifice and what He's done for them. Dont be obnoxious about it like some of the Bible posters are, make it relevant to the conversation, make it digestible, and make it unfold the true glory of God before their eyes and pave the way for God to work in their hearts. Because theres one thing i forgot to mention in my psychological analysis above and thats the fourth means of persuasion. And that fourth means is Proof. Open their eyes to God and let Him prove His existence, past that point theres nothing you can do.
>>15369 >Does he overcome this and become normal? There are people that are born outside of the typical man-woman distinction, this narrow view of male-ness and female-ness is not nuanced. six categories for people under the law were: Zachar (זָכָר) Saris (סָרִיס) Androgynos (אנדרוגינוס) Tumtum (טומטום) Ay’lonit (איילונית) Nekevah (נְקֵבָה) >>15378 Can you post any examples of him slaying the mohammadeans? From what i learnt Charlemagne actually adopted iconoclasm from the muslims.
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>>15420 Astolfo is from a medieval mythologized version of the battles between the Franks and the Saracens so they amalgamated historical events together and had the Holy Roman Empire fighting Muslims because it was cool. On Charlemagne being an iconoclast it was because he was mad at not being invited to the Second Council of Nicaea when he had been declared by the Pope as the Roman emperor and the Byzantines were in a regency under Irene, so he thought he had a right to be there. There were actually plans that the two of them might have entered into a marriage alliance and created a re-united Roman Empire but it fell through. After getting a copy of the decisions of the Second Council of Nicaea he hired someone to condemn its teachings on icons and signed off on it, but the Pope received a draft of the condemnation and wrote a letter refuting it. They proceeded to disagree over the next century but by 864 and the Fourth Council of Constantinople the Western church had conceded to the Byzantine decision and affirmed Nicaea II.
>>15420 Sir this is /christian/ not some kind of crazy oriental harem.
>>15420 You will never be a woman.
>>15485 >>15486 You're probably the same person spamming.
>>15420 What do those jewish scribbles mean?
>>11691 TOUHOU IS NOT AN ANIME
>>15473 >it was because he was mad at not being invited to the Second Council of Nicaea 100% cope. Idolatry had never been the practice of the Frankish churches, so when they received a word from Byzantium commanding them to worship idols they rejected it utterly, both the church and the state.
>>15558 >implying he wasn't the rightful emperor crowned by God to assemble the final ecumenical council in defiance of the false council of idolators assembled under the illegitimate authority of a woman
>>15546 This.
>>11645 >An omniscient creator doesn't have creations which perform actions that are not ordained by that creator >can't have a creation with a will free from the omniscient creator Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. If what you mean by free will is the ability to think or act in a way that God simply can't conceive, then literally nothing has free will, not even God. Otherwise, being able to act in a way that goes against the desire of God but isn't an act that is completely nonexistent as a concept, as in God will never possibly allow, doesn't require God to not have any control. That you're capable of exerting any force on his creation doesn't imply that you, yourself, are literally acting by the will of God, nor does it imply you're acting against existence in itself. >>11654 I don't know why you think God isn't capable of feeling something in relation to a specific moment in time, even if he already knows what will happen anyway. Does God being unchanging require existence to be as eternal as he is, since any creation would necessarily require that thing which created it, which he made, to have always been there? The concept of time as we understand it, both as it exists and as its spectrum opposite, might not even apply. If not this, then the idea of unchanging is a lot more limited than literally no condition ever changing.
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>>15696 >Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. No shit? The later is literally a rephrasing of the (consequences of the) former. >nor does it imply you're acting against existence in itself. I'm not sure what you mean by this. >That you're capable of exerting any force on his creation doesn't imply that you, yourself, are literally acting by the will of God, Your mind exerting force on your body would necessarily imply that you, yourself, are literally God. I mean, the alternative is to have a separate mind/body explanation. I'm assuming that your will is separate but (eternally, miraculously,) coincidentally synchronized with what's actually happening in the world. Of course, leibniz' explanation for the mind/body problem doesn't change the fact that your (independent) will is Created, and act's necessarily by it's own design which is of the design of God. >Does God being unchanging require existence to be as eternal as he is, since any creation would necessarily require that thing which created it, which he made, to have always been there? The thing that created anything in existence is eternal and was always there and was not made by God, because it is God. There isn't an intermediate creator, what are you a neoplatonist? >The concept of time as we understand it, both as it exists and as its spectrum opposite, might not even apply. The concept of time certainly doesn't apply. The post that you're linking to makes it clear that that is my position. God unequivocally is not subject to time. The created isn't actually 'subject' to time, it happens that we infer it as a perception. But creation wasn't made at a starting point and set to go off and develop on it's own; this would imply that the act of creation, which was God's, was limited in temporal context. But it wasn't; God made all of creation, which is/includes creation at all times. Every object in every moment has a single relationship, which is to the creator; every other relation is simply a perception.
>>15699 >Every object in every moment has a single relationship, which is to the creator; every other relation is simply a perception. Vain philosophical nonsense which is utterly foreign to the bible

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