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/christian/ Meta thread
Hello and welcome all to /christian/, the new church of the cafe.
I'll be taking over from the old owner, so if there's anything you want to tell me about the board, go ahead and do it here.
In addition, I'm looking for a few mods to maintain the status of the board. If you're interested, please, contact me at email@example.com to let me know.
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"Jesus was a jew" nonsense
Usually when it's exclaimed that Jesus was a "jew" they mean modern Judaism belonging to a monolithic jewish hivemind, not Old Testament precursor Judaism.
Among a lot of incompatibilities Judaism (modern and early post-Christ Talmud/Kabbalah) specifically rejecting Christ and a male God. That's not enough for far-right atheists and pagans, they will keep implying and lumping Jesus as part of the modern jewish Illuminati that rejects Christ and anticipates that anti-Christ's.
It's a really surface level interpretation and contradictory view of Jesus.
Here is some sourced reading for those interested. https://archive.md/3O95d
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Arguments for a personal God
All beliefs held by people are uncertain, and beyond the ability to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, and therefore are a matter of faith, especially materialism. This is rational enough to observe. If the Christian God exists, he is transcendent beyond our perception, but immanent in the world, so that we can approach some truths about him.
Now what are the reasons why God should resemble what Christianity proposes, and would be personally involved in the moral character of his creations, if morality can even be said to exist? I'm not strongly positioned either way, but as far as my limited education goes, tying morality to Christ feels like a cope (but I don't think I know the best arguments in favor of Christ). And yet morality being tied to God is the only way true morality could exist. Which is why I feel compelled to ask.
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Genesis + Biblical Creation
This thread is for discussion and the sharing information critical of evolution, old earth, attempts to allegorize the early chapters of Genesis, etc.
I will be posting some basic info critical of (Neo-)Darwinism shortly.
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How to be free of fear?
TLDR: I know I have to get rid of fear with religion, but I don't know how.
I feel like I am in some sort of extreme apathy. No, I'm not into dark thoughts of ending life. It's more of an extreme apathy of not feeling any positive emotion at all. I'm not sure how to explain it properly, I'm sorry. It's like I am unable to receive happiness or I am unable to enjoy fun playing videogames. As if I am emotionally sterile.
I need to open my heart and be honest and say what I'm really thinking, but I have a problem with trust. I don't reveal my honest thoughts, my honest opinions to even my family (who are very nihilistic) because every time I open myself to a problem I get the "your problems aren't worth sharing" treatment and they quickly change the topic. I have a few friends but they are not RL friends.
I won't go to many details but this basically led me to a situation where I let fear govern me and myself, and this went on for around 10 years or so.
Why the heck am I posting this in the Christianity boards? Because I used to be Christian when I was a teen, going to the church for months and I had a better mental health... until my mother did a "how dare you" speech onto me, making me stop following Christianity.
I believe that there is a connection. If I am Christian, there is no fear. Otherwise there is fear within me. I think I need to go back to my Christian ways to finally get rid of my fear. Problem is that my fear seems to be that big that I don't come up with any steps to get started.
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Mark Goring has been talking about this book. I finally starting reading it for myself and I just think everyone should read it. I don't want to ruin it at all. But it is about near death experiences and not just cases but the entire field itself and the research and easy ways to prove them true.
Here's the audiobook: https://mega.nz/folder/6ZZiUbQY#Rx-z9hzuKWOJxw-_aMKu3A
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CHRIST IS RISEN
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QTDDTOT - Questions that don't need their own thread. Post your questions here.
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Satanic Temple Holiday Display to Be Installed at Illinois State Capitol Building
>A controversial holiday display from The Satanic Temple will be installed Monday in the rotunda of Illinois' state Capitol.
>The display, an art installation celebrating the satanic holiday of Sol Invictus, is scheduled to go up near other religious art in the Springfield building at 1 p.m.
>"This year's tradition marks a greater urgency in the Baphomet's message of harmony and reconciliation," Satanic Temple Director of Campaign Operations Erin Helian said in the release.
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Recently I've grown obsessed with being militarily,phsyically powerfu for the sake of the Church and of my holy catholic religion and lifestyle. I want to rack a high kill count of fairly defeated enemies.Didnt Sampson kill 1000 enemies? didnt David kill 10,000 enemies in war? Didnt one prophet kill 400 baal prophets?
Is this desire holy,or fermented by the devil/prelest? Should I learn to shoot firearms, survival,military tactics? I wont do anything illegal or unfair just in Just Wars or self-defense
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This WILL seem(and is,maybe)weird but its the kind of stuff I cant post in any discord or forum and only on an anonymous I.B.
Im a man but lately i kinda want to be a femboy or pretty boy because i feel it's a form of ultimate beauty, a kind of almost supernatural beauty that trascends men and women. and i'll be super popular with girls.
But I also think instead of being a thinspo femboy i should try to become a more hyper masculine,growing more muscles, a full beard, trying to increase T trough natural foods,etc.
what am I to do? seriously sirs,please help a man out
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Info thread on local idiot
Just letting you know that the guy behind all of these posts and threads >>372 >>1235 >>1204 >>1083 >>1109
is a griefing idiot that's goes on different imageboards to steal people's information and sell whatever he can get our of you. And also just start random shit in general. Don't go to any links he sends you, or to his shitty discord links
You will get datamined
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Adolf Hitler was Jesus Christ
>If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him
How could we have missed this? I read the words and hear the speeches of this man and feel the spiritual energy radiate from Him in a way that I have not experienced with anyone but Jesus Christ. Adolf Hitler was Jesus Christ . He came back to this Earth and dwelt among us, leading His people from the depths of the Depression back into glory, a preaching a true Gospel of Völkisch Christian love among the German people and against the godless creed of Marxism. In all of his dealings He exhibited Christlike benevolence and selflessness, and was loved by all good-hearted men and women, young and old. After waging a titanic war between good and evil, Adolf Hitler pointed us towards the Second Coming of Himself in full glory. “Fight for the Coming Man” he said. And He did not die. He ascended into Heaven, where He still sits at the right hand of power! Heil Hitler! Heil Christ!
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Daily reminder that icons and statues in churches are idols and no amount of linguistic pilpuling about ‘veneration’ will change this fact. God is extremely clear in what He commands:
>Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them
And yet when one goes into an Orthodox Church, this is exactly what one sees. Lines of people going in and bowing before icons of saints and Mary, crossing themselves and kissing the icons. The deacons go about and wave incense before the icons of the saints, Mary and Jesus. The same goes for Catholics. I tried to fall for the so-called ‘apostolic’ church meme for a while, but to see them kiss and worship the images of saints rang major alarm bells in my head, no matter how many copes I read from apologists online. Iconolatry is idolatry, and idolatry will lead you to the hellfire.
Protestantism has flaws, but at least ones who are consistent in reading Scripture can realize that nothing but God is due worship and veneration, and that the praying to the saints and Mary is a pagan innovation. Faith in Christ and gathering in His name is enough. Do not be led astray by idol-venerators and other crypto-pagans.
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Deliverance after death?
It's generally understood that there can be no deliverance after death. Yet traditional Christianity has long upheld the doctrine of the Harrowing of Hell, that Jesus descended into Hell during His death to deliver the Old Testament righteous as they could not save themselves being under the weight of original sin. So it seems that there was a special case in which this applied. There is also the ancient tradition of prayers for the death. Now, without consideration of Roman Catholic dogmas of purgatory, was this a one-time event? That is, that Christ no longer harrows Hell, and those that die in ignorance of the gospel, for example, following His death and resurrection are condemned to eternal damnation? Or, being that Heaven and Hell are timeless, did in the Harrowing Jesus bring up all the men and women throughout history worthy of deliverance as per His judgement, and not just the spirits of those that died prior to His crucifixion?
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Reading Recommendation and Docs Thread
Exactly what it says. Post titles, PDFs, TXTs, quotes, whatever you think a Christian should read.
And feel free to amend this list as needed.
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This thread is for documenting the perverse nature of modern-day "Judaism", i.e. that religion which emerged following the destruction of the Second Temple that rejects Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah.
Topics that this thread could cover include the nature of the Talmud, Kabbalah, Saturn occultism, Passover blood sacrifices, perverse and immoral Jewish practices and much more.
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Will the Jews ever accept the Christ, their King?
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Gods light = amazing praise the lord
I love and have faith I the one true God who came into this world to save sinners among whome I am first.
Butcher the servants of the antichrist and all their children!!!!
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Post your Christ-chans here, they bring the image board audience to Christianity.
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For the high church types here: does the practice of consecrating a church with the namesake of one of the saints or another when it has no direct connection to nor any relics in connection to said saint merit disapproval?
In 787, it was decreed:
>Let anyone, then, that consecrates a temple without holy relics be deposed from office, on the ground that he has transgressed ecclesiastical traditions.
(c. XCI of Carthage.)
>As for any prelate that consecrates a temple hereafter without holy relics of martyrs, let him be deposed from office as a transgressor of ecclesiastical traditions.
>Canon XCI of Carthage decrees that those sacrificial altars in which there is treasured no body or relics of martyrs are to be wrecked or disapproved.
The full-text of the canon of the Council of Carthage was as follows:
>Of false Memories of Martyrs
>Item, it seemed good that the altars which have been set up here and there, in fields and by the wayside as Memories of Martyrs, in which no body nor relics of martyrs can be proved to have been laid up, should be overturned by the bishops who rule over such places, if such a thing can be done. But should this be impossible on account of the popular tumult it would arouse, the people should none the less be admonished not to frequent such places, and that those who believe rightly should be held bound by no superstition of the place. And no memory of martyrs should at all be accepted, unless where there is found the body or some relics, on which is declared traditionally and by good authority to have been originally his habitation, or possession, or the scene of his passion. For altars which have been erected anywhere on account of dreams or inane quasi-revelations of certain people, should be in every way disapproved of.
So from the reading of these two together, the direction appears to be:
1) It is wrong to consecrate altars in the memory of a martyr without some direct connection to or relic in connection to said martyr.
2) The intention of the Council of Carthage was not to ban all churches without relics, but those that were falsely raised in the memory of a martyr without actual connection to them.
3) That any bishop consecrating a church without relics, with the implication that they do to institute it with the memory of a martyr dishonestly in violation of the previous point, is to be excommunicated for violation of ecclesiastical tradition.
4) That best practice is for churches to be consecrated in the name of a saint, but only if the site possess a direct connection to or relics in connection to the aforementioned.
5) It is not expressly forbidden to consecrate altars without relics if it is not done with pretenses that the church is a reliquary for a given individual, but it is to be abstained from except by necessity.
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The Unpardonable sin
Apparently if you are a Christian, a self professing believer in Christ that is faithful till his death, you can still end up in hell.
To fulfill this condition, you must be fully aware that you are about to commit a sinful act, with full knowledge that you shouldnt be doing this, yet you acted against your conscience.
Truth be told, most of you have commited this grisl act.
My question to you, how do you cope with the impending eternal torment that awaits you?
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity
2 Peter 2
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire
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Well, I don’t really know how should I explain my situation. My life is a mess, I don’t have any friends, or a girlfriend, or someone that really cares about me. Since I was a child I was humiliated and treated badly, I'm a porn addict since I was a child and I discovered that one of my family members is planning to make an OnlyFans account. I see that this world is getting more shitty and degenerate and I feel like our leaders (most probably Jews) are trying to enslave everyone. I don't even trust Christianity because of its Jewish roots (I don't care if someone says that "not all Jews are evil" or "some jews are cool tradcaths!", I don't trust them and I hate them with all my soul, no matter what).
Since I was a kid I was bullied for being autistic, so that's probably the reason I have BPD nowadays. I have a lot of traumas that I can't forget, and I get really nervous when I remember some of them.
I'm planning to kill myself soon (I'm going for a few days to a place I used to go when I was a kid, so I will just end it all there), I'm tired of everything, I have never been happy in my whole life. All I just wanted is have a nice asian wife (sounds like a joke for some reason, but I liked asian girls since I'm a kid), live in a nice place, have friends and raise children, sounds weird but if I was specific I would liked to live in a place like Japan in the 2000s or 90s, before the Internet and Technology in general became this shitfest, but I guess that's not going to happen. The best case scenario is that I end up as a wageslave for some kike until my diet of shitty soylent food and the EMFs in my city ends up killing me. Every plan I make goes out wrong, it's like I have bad luck or that something wants me to suffer for some reason.
I asked God to help me but he doesn't answer. And I don't know if he does exist or he is just some kind of Tulpa. But the thing is that I'm tired of this world.
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Post your prayers here and other anons will pray for you.
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The Virgin Mary
The Theotokos, Queen of Heaven, and Mother of God. This is the thread for discussing Mariology, miracles, apparitions, and visions of our Lord's Mother.
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Why has the Church chosen to follow the world by supporting age of consent and anti-pedophilia? Biblically no distinction is made between children and adults for the purpose of sexuality, so why do even churches who follow the bible on other things like homosexuality go with the flow on this?
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Thoughts on David Koresh and Branch Davidians?
I remember watching a Waco documentary about them and it really peaked my interest. Ive never looked too deep into their religious beliefs but the way they were described by the local community painted them as generally good people which reminded me of something Jesus said:
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit." Matt 7
This made me think that maybe they were on to something (not necessarily that ALL their views were correct) and thats without mentioning how David Koresh literally predicted his death at the hands of "Babylon's Army"
what are your thoughts on them? Have any of you ever read into their beliefs?
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This might be an interesting topic to talk about, So throughout the bible Polygamy is never outright forbidden by God. In fact most biblical figures seem to have numerous wives. Including David, Gideon, Abraham, Jacob and more. In some cases it was directly what caused them to stray in solomon's case. But God had written that is what exactly what would happen if you took too many wives read Deuteronomy 17:17 for clarification. As such in this case I believe Polygamy unless you go completely overboard like Solomon did.
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Is Gnosticism on the rise?
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Mark of Beast
"And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a
mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—
the name of the beast or the number of its name.
Here is a call for wisdom: Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the
number of a man, and that number is 666. " -Revelation 13 BSB
ok so lets decode this, the mark will be "on the right hand or on the forehead",
well the right hand in middle eastern cultures was the dominant hand because the left hand was used to wipe when you went to the bathroom and the forehead obviously symbolizes your thoughts. So its safe to say that the Mark of the Beast will have something to do with your thoughts and actions, but how exactly can the beast prevent you from buying or selling based off your thoughts and actions? Social Credit System.
"Here is a call for wisdom: Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the
number of a man, and that number is 666."
the number 666 is often associated with king Solomon which is backed up by the fact that the Bible then says "for it is the number of a man"
Other than his wisdom what was Solomon known for? His many wives (degeneracy) and idolatry. What would this look like in a modern context?
Well degeneracy would look the same as it did back then but idolatry would be a bit different, instead of bowing down to or giving sacrifices to idols it would instead be look more like prioritizing worldly things over God and worshipping the beast.
The Mark of the Beast will likely be some kind of social credit score system that adds and subtracts points from your account based off your thoughts and actions, you will likely receive points for taking part in degeneracy and idolatry and be negated points for worshipping God and not conforming to the beasts system.
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Why were the Corinthians such dicks?
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what is the bible version that is closest to Christ?
hello i am new to posting on this board, so i apologize in advance if i screwed something up. anyway i only have this little new testament book i got from a Gideon a year or so back, i heard there were other versions but after looking there is a lot of them and i do not know which one to pick, i can only afford one. can anyone please tell me what is the bible version that's the most accurate representation of Christian belief? i was baptized Orthodox but I haven't really went into religion until last year and want to be more involved
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What theory of atonement is right? I’m interested in hearing what you guys have to say about this. This topic honestly drives me crazy, there are so many theories, and Scripture itself seems to support a million different interpretations, and even then I am sometimes confused about why exactly it had to go down the way it did. Off the top of my head:
From St. Irenaeus. Christ united the divine and human in one person and recapitulated human life from birth until death in perfect sinlessness, restoring humanity to communion with God through the incarnation, eventually conquering death. Basically He did what Adam couldn’t.
From Anselm of Canterbury. Sin offended God’s honor, and sinning against an infinitely holy God warrants infinite punishment. Humanity cannot make restitution, and thus Jesus Christ as God-man comes and pays off our debt with his supererogatory sacrifice on the cross.
Christ ransomed us from slavery to the devil somehow. Sometimes the Church Fathers write that His body was a divine fish-hook or trap that the devil tried to take, and he fell for it, and it somehow liberated us and freed the souls from Hades.
>Penal substitutiom theory
Sin requires a penalty of punishment, no satisfaction could be offered, Christ took this in our place, and this free gift is received through faith in Christ.
To me, I feel like all of these have elements of truth. When humanity fell into sin, there was an infinite gap created between humanity and God that we could not bridge ourselves. The sentence of death was just, and humanity was incapable of satisfying God’s demands for restitution. So the Father out of His mercy and love, sent His only-begotten Son to assume human nature, to recapitulate every stage of life, restoring it to communion with God, completing what Adam failed to do, and then dying on the cross for the purposes of satisfying divine justice in our place, ransoming humanity from the clutches of death and rising on the third day. Christ thereby opened to us the path of divinization / theosis, allowing us by grace to become sons of God and co-heirs with Christ. We were redeemed, reconciled, saved and given a possibility for greater communion than ever before. This is at least my attempt to reconcile what I have seen in Scripture and some of the stuff I mentioned above. Let me know what you guys think or what you hold true.
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Ravens and Unclean Birds of the Bible/Revelations
I was reading through Revelations the other day and stumbled upon the verse talking about the unclean birds in Babylon. Out of interest i looked up what birds were considered unclean by the Bible. The OT gave off a pretty long list of birds including eagles, ravens/crows, and even ostriches (???) but this confused me. Because not only are both Eagles and Ravens depicted in the Bible in a positive light but just a few chapters down Revelations says this:
Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out in a loud voice to all the birds flying overhead,
“Come, gather together for the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings and
commanders and mighty men, of horses and riders, of everyone slave and free, small and great.”
You may not understand what is confusing about this at first so let me explain, Corvids (ravens, crows, etc) are well known throughout cultures to feast upon the deceased on the battlefield, so its assumed that the birds the angels are talking to are Corvids and other scavengers.
Furthermore Corvids are also spoken of very positively by God, at one point He uses them to bring food to Elijah, at another point he speaks about providing for their needs. The same applies to Eagles, at one point God even compares His strength to that of an eagles wings.
So im kinda confused, my first thought is that birds such as Corvids and Eagles are considered "unclean" because God didnt want the Israelites eating birds that He had compared Himself too/used as servants (bad symbolism and all). But if thats then case then what are the "unclean birds" described in Babylon? And also are these "birds" literal birds or do they symbolize something else?
Typically when i think of unclean birds i think of pigeons/vultures the latter of which has a strong symbolic meaning especially nowadays but idk.
What are your thoughts?
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The Present World is (Not) Saved
1: Those who are not under the covenant of grace are under the covenant of law.
2: The present world is evidently under the dominion of Pharisaic Jewish law.
Conclusion: Despite what those that dwell within it might think, the vast majority of the world is Not saved, which is demonstrated in its yoke to the law.
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Obviously we should not rely on such things to guide us. But they can sometimes point us in the right direction. Is there any piece of secular media that you find inspiring and even would even recommend to others?
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is this true?were there pro-soviet christians?
"Starets and martyr Vladimir Lenin. The cult of Lenin as a holy starets is characteristic of the bezpopovcy, the Old Believers who deny the orthodox clergy, who since the 17th centuy were persecuted by Tsarist power. The victory of the Soviet revolution finally ended the reign of the Tsar – and the enemy of my enemy is my friend. This icon was photographed in a church in the Komi Autonomous Republic in the mid-1990s."
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Reminder to the doctrinal believers on the board: when you're talking to a contemporary heretic, remember that this is usually the level of theological underpinning they have from which they draw their lines of thought.
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The Eastern Orthodox New Testament
Come all ye faithful and read the good news of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, as translated by learned scholars in the Eastern Orthodox tradition. The Old Testament was never completed, and the project has since gone defunct, but lest that what was finished in this noble effort be lost to time and obscurity, and for the ecumenical interest, I am sharing it here. This is the pre-print which was available as of late 2010, and not the final published version, which can be found digitally or in print at bookstores online.
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Christianity Proofs thread
this thread is for various proofs of the truth of christianity and evidence which supports the bible since i lost my old folder which contained alot of stuff
this could include stuff like miracles, philosiphical proofs or historic evidence
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How can I find a racist church?
I just can't go to a place and hear the father doing the I am not racist sermon. Or even the liberals are the real racists sermon.
It makes me pissed. I want nothing to do with cultural marxism. I want to go to a church where there's truth. Even if in secret. And I know for sure that the races aren't equal.
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2D masturbation in Orthodoxy
Hey there, I'm an /a/non, remembered you from the /christmas/ crossover and I need help. This is my first time here.
I've been seriously looking into converting to Orthodox Christianity. I've been learning the saints, practices, and have even begun crossing myself at times and praying the Jesus Prayer. Was going to ask a priest about joining the Church this weekend.
But then it hit me. I remember from my youth that masturbation is considered a sin, isn't it? It didn't cross my mind before because it's a part of my life and a big part of otaku culture, looking at 2D lewds.
I've been searching the internet about this topic and I'd like to ask a priest about it, but I'm not sure he'd understand. The only place I know of that might is you guys. I don't look at traditional porn, so I'm not objectifying any person, and I never felt any bit of guilt about what I'm doing. Otaku culture cultivates sharing openly your fetishes, and it's a bonding thing among us. "I like girls with ponytails, I like short hair, childhood friends, vanilla love stories, etc." It's always seemed real pure to me, especially the touching love stories in doujin. It makes me feel like maybe I might have such a marital relationship in the future, as unlikely as it may be. I am against non-marital sex, personally, even without religion.
I just don't understand what I'm doing wrong, or if I am. It can be a big nonstarter for me and a lot of people. I don't even think I'll ever be married either. If I am, it'll be providence and I don't mind giving up on masturbation as long as I can explore sexual activities with her. Is Orthodoxy against anything but missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation? I can't find a definitive answer.
Sometimes I can get into harder stuff, but I feel guilty for those and naturally scale it back at those times. But mostly it's a cultural thing and is a warm-hearted and liberating feeling for bonding with myself.
I've been praying about it, and thought to come here. Please help me, I'm confused about the Orthodox position on these things.
And another thing. What is the Orthodox position on fantasies, not sexual fantasies, but fantasies about being in that wonderful 2D world where people are so nice, or being in a SF story or witnessing giant monsters fight? Isn't that just the same kind of inward passion as masturbating to a cute girl's love story?
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50 sources/legends the qur'an uses
It's not just plagiarism, some times it's straight up theft.
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Serious question /issue discussion here,folks:Is it ok for a pious christian man to use (youtube subliminals)? you May have heard of them,probably.
my question isnt wether they work or not,but if its ok to use them assuming they,indeed,work.
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Jim Shaw's The Deadly Deception
So apparently Jim Shaw doesn't have any records that he was a 33 degree freemason. Does anyone have anymore information on this?
>He also claims to have been invited and coronated a 33° on October 25, 1966. The issue with his claim is that within the Supreme Council of the Southern Jurisdiction of the United States of America, one must be a 32° for 46-months before he is eligible for the KCCH, and you must be a KCCH for another 46-months before he is eligible for invitation to the 33°. On top of those minimum time limits, you must be 35-years of age. So, it is entirely impossible that Shaw, by these standards, to have been 33° when he resigned and demitted from Freemasonry entirely; he was still 37-months away from eligibility for an invitation to the 33°; well after he resigned from Freemasonry. It is also important to note that with his claims he never provides any documentation to support this argument. The only evidence was that he was a 32° KCCH. Anti-Masons claim that this lack of extant records is due to the fact that he burned everything else, but the KCCH investment (How convenient). I would also like to note that the Supreme Councils list all names of those elected to honors (KCCH, 33, and Grand Cross) in their annual "Transactions of the Supreme Council", none of which list Jim Shaw as a 33°. Brothers Arturo de Hoyos and S. Brent Morris, in their book "Is It True What They Say About Freemasonry?", did a lot of research and I recommend that every Freemason read this book. They point out that the supposed expose of the 33° ceremonies is plagiarized from "the 'Cerneau' 33° ritual in Jonathan Blanchard's Scotch Rite Masonry Illustrated" that was published in 1887. Much of his book is plagiarized from other anti-Masons such as Samuel Prichard and William Morgan.
>When these glaring discrepancies came to light, Tom McKenney, the co-author, back-peddled and blamed the publishers for exaggerating Shaw's Masonic career and yet it wasn't the publisher who used those false credentials to fabricate the story of Shaw being coronated and defaming the Ancient & Accepted Scottish Rite. Some anti-Masons claim that Freemasons altered records to discredit Jim Shaw. Such a conspiracy would require the Grand Lodge of Florida recalling and altering every copy of its Proceedings that it sends out within its own jurisdiction as well as numerous copies that go to other Grand Lodges and Masonic bodies. This would have to have been done not just one year's proceedings either, but every year that Shaw was supposedly Senior Deacon, Junior Warden, Senior Warden, and then Worshipful Master. Then Allapattah Lodge would have to recalled and altered their Lodge minutes, officer photos, monthly bulletins, annual reports, Lodge awards, and their sign-in rosters for their Lodge that would have listed Shaw as a Worshipful Master. Then the Valley of Miami, the Orient of Florida, and the Supreme Council of the Scottish Rite, Southern Jurisdiction, would also have had to recall and alter bulletins, minutes, reunion programs, pictures, and numerous other documents that would have listed Shaw as a 33°.
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The Armoury of the Kingdom of Heaven
>In which we discuss the weapons we have available in this spiritual war
After the lively discussions at /Christmas/, I thought it wise to talk about our weapons - that is prayer - in the fight against the spiritual powers of the world and against the old man. In particular I would like to focus the discussion on which situations we have found these weapons to be useful.
Obviously the Lord's prayer is an indispensable part of any Christian's equipment. It is the standard issue sword. It is not, however, a shallow prayer. I have often been surprised at how different parts of the prayer stand out depending on what is going on in my life. I think it perfectly encapsulates the heart of the Christian's relationship towards God and thus serves as a signpost. It has certainly helped me in this. God is our Father and we should revere him and his Holy Name. We are to anxiously anticipate His kingdom breaking through at every point (I like to think of the world as bursting at the seams while Heaven pours through). We are also to subordinate our will to His. We should be thankful to God for the things we have. We should forgive others when they wrong us so that we may be forgiven by God. And we should understand that God is doing the heavy lifting in our salvation and not proudly believe that we can endure temptation and escape evil under our own power.
When I was unsure if I actually believed or not, someone suggested to me to use the prayer of the mute boy's father:
>Lord I believe; help my unbelief
And He did. I had to pray it many times a day for months but He did. If anyone else wants to believe but is unsure of whether they actually do, get yourself some prayer beads/knotted rope/pile of rocks and pray this once per bead per day. I used a rosary because that's what I had available.
One of the best things I did was get a Book of Common Prayer. I can highly recommend adopting a structured daily prayer: especially if you're like me and struggle with "spontaneous" prayer. It has a number of good prayers in it like the magnificat and it should rotate you around the psalms and help you remember at least a little bit of them. Psalm 37 (Fret not thyself because of the ungodly) has been particularly helpful in counteracting the black pill.
I would talk about the rosary but I think that needs a longer treatment than what I can give it right now. Has anyone else a particular prayer or group of prayers that they use a lot or that stands out to them? How have you notice their effectiveness in your life?
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Defeating sexual desires
Hello anons. My heart is somewhat heavy as I write this, I do not have anyone that I feel comfortable sharing this with so I am coming here under the cover of anonymity to exchange my thoughts and seek yours on this subject.
Masturbation is a sin
Sex outside of marriage is a sin
Engaging in prostitution is a sin
As a man I have a natural sex drive
I would like help and advice on defeating my sexual desires without committing sin. If I abstain from masturbation, I can refrain from engaging in sexuality for around a period of a week with little difficulty. After that initial 1 week period, it starts to encompass my whole life. I have an erection when I wake up every morning, and I get more throughout the day, at least one an hour and more if I have to interact with any girl under 30. I pray for help in keeping the sexual thoughts away, but it feels like I'm fighting a losing battle and I will relapse at some point no matter what. The longest I've been able to abstain from anything sexual was when I was an atheist and I lasted around a year. After a period of a few months, paradoxically my whole life was concerned with sex, I was not having orgasms however the only thing I had on my mind every day was "I need to find a girl to have sex with" (which never worked), everything was secondary to that. It culminated with me getting cock-teased by a girl I was exchanging with for around a week, getting fed up when I realized I was just getting taken along for a ride then seeking the services of a prostitute, which broke my abstinence and made me lose my virginity, if that concept even exists for a man. I regret the choices I made.
After this chapter in my life, I concluded that the healthiest thing to do was to masturbate once a month to get it out of my system and to be able to live my life without being entranced by sex all the time. Eventually I relapsed and was engaging with porn at least 10 times a week, until I found the faith which helped knock it back down to something more reasonable like 2-4 times a month. However, sin is sin and I would like to be fully rid of it.
I know that the simplest answer is to marry a girl, whoever that does not appear to be possible for me (it appears that my fate is to be an incel which I've come to terms with), so it seems like I've come to an impasse. I can't masturbate without committing sin, and I don't have a way to relieve myself of those sexual desires legitimately. However, if I don't relieve myself of it, it quickly starts to take over my life (I had begun to call the action of masturbation "satiating the beast" in my head). I don't know what to do.
I remember seeing this anon who castrated himself on old 8chan years ago and thought he had lost his mind then, though now every day I start to understand more and more why he wanted to be rid of his sexual desires.
Additional question: Why did God give me (and other men) such a strong sex drive and at the same time put me and a lot of other men (40% of men under 30 reported no sex in the past year in a study around 2018 I believe and that was before the corona lockdowns which must have made that number shoot up even more) in an era where it is extremely difficult to rid yourself of this desire without committing sin?
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Extraterrestrial Life in the Bible
I am curious about the Biblical view on this subject. Would every intelligent species have their own messiah, or would they need to be saved through Jesus? This assumes they even have souls in the same way as humans at all.
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Does prayer work?
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Combining Asceticism with Military Might
thus! I have read a lot(a lot,really) on the desert fathers and irish monastics, the most notorious ascetics of catholicism. I have became aware of their penances/Ascetic activities regarding sleep,bodily positions,diet, entertainment, silence etc. this is not-to say inner spirituality isnt important. now...
AS someone who wants to become a martial fighter/soldier/weight lifter:How can I reconcile seemingly anti-testosterone activities(sleeping less than 6 hours), a protein-less diet such as bread ,a spirit of poverty(no supplements),etc, with my goal of military might?
>this is serious,mods please dont delete. im a male in this late 20's, already have one black belt, and lift what I can in lockdown
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Orthobros, was personae an inaccurate translation into Latin (and subsequently all Western European languages) of the concept of hypostases?
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Doc thread, post any documentaries you've seen relating to Christianity or it's enemies.
Here is the frist Doc, Altyian Childs reveals world secret religion, freemason is satanism. https://www.bitchute.com/video/uNpvPBYLagSN/
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Should we denounced the old testament, aka evil kike bible?
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Let's do something for /christmas/
Christanons, if you aren't aware of the Christmas festival happening on the webring right now currently, if you have time, you should consider checking it out and contributing so we can spread love, faith, and goodwill to everyone and we can all have an incredible time. Feel free to check out the rules and board here: >>>/christmas/1
My question to you is: what should we do for Christmas? I know that we're an extremely small community here, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask. Most boards are throwing streams, and there'll be a radio broadcast going on that everyone that has something like VLC or MPV can tune into. Most of the events are starting on the 18th and from everyday til the 24th, at roughly 7-8PM EST the events happen. Should we do something in the mornings, so we don't conflict with other schedules? Should we bother setting up an embassy?
As it is, it appears we've been officially invited by /yuri/ >>2033
to watch some war movies that will be taking place, so why not also plan something in return that anyone can also enjoy? I think I might be attending the stream btw, especially since it's a good time to just bask in good neighborliness with anyone regardless of their beliefs.
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There is no practical difference between a white homosexual atheist marxist and white, supposedly right-wing "white-nationalist" imageboard browser, if they both end up not having children. In fact, the biggest damage done to Europeans spiritually and culturally is the decline in having large families and lots of children. Let's put aside the differences between Catholics, protties, and orthodox for now and discuss why people aren't having children, and how to change it. Also, how to change your mentality from the "life should be about fun" mindset to a more traditional mindset of raising and providing and creating something genuinely meaningful.
Personally I think the loss a connection to god and the sense of something to work towards and to create for the future, for your children and not just for your momentary pleasures, is a big reason why people just don't have children. Even so-callled "right"-wing people on the internet will claim to be anti-natalist or to not want kids for one reason or another. Nothing could possibly be more damaging to faith and to the souls of people on earth than to not have children and pass down your beliefs.
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Can an individual be saved from within a mass though his church be accursed?
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Yeshua was a Mediterranean jew
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How to use gains to bring glory to God?
Most uses seem pretty egotistic.
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The Saturn conspiracy and why it's not applicable to Christianity
Video explaining the position against Christianity
Some arguments against the Christian side of the Saturn conspiracy and the accusation that YHWH is saturn.
>Revelation 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp "sickle".
Of course God is depicted this instance with a sickle hes specifically doing a harvest, The Christian God isn't normally with a sickle.
>Revelation 21:17 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. 17And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
We don't worship New Jerusalem.
>The Christian Cross looks like the Saturn astrology symbol or The Christian cross folds in 3D for form a cube.
We don't (or shouldn't) worship the Christian cross, for this very reason, but Catholics don't listen.
The Saturn Conspiracy almost gets the influence of Satan right, but makes an uneducated attack on Christianity, and when you try to defend Christianity you get called biased.
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Hope everyone on this board has a blessed day :)))).
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I need help
I am having trouble praying, I struggle with lust, I have an attraction that is destroying me, if I get interested in something I always end up making it my idol, I am a pmo and dopamine, I suffer abuse, struggle with self control, rebellion and laziness, please help me for I don't know what to do .
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My experince at a prayer walk
Today i had a good day, i was invited to a prayer walk by a new Christian friend i met at a community Bible group nearby. There were 12 of us, we all went around town praying for and blessing people and telling our testimonies. I though there would be people who would be against it (since we live in a very liberal area) but most where Christians themselves and were happy that we would pray for them. One of the new Christian friends said he had given his life to Christ and had Christ living in him, he asked if he could pray for me and i said yes, and he covertly acknowledged the sins i've been struggling with in his prayer.
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Does anyone have that letter from a Roman persecutor complaining of how Christians reacted with love and happiness at every horror done to them? It was inspiring.
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Can anyone debunk the the theory that Revelation was about events happening contemporaneous to its writing, like revelation being about the Roman empire?
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Prayers of Healing
My friend's father just suffered a stroke. I do not know many Christian places on the internet, but this is one of them. Please send him prayers of good health, it would destroy my friend if he passed. Recommendations of healing prayers much appreciated.
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Where do we draw the line for idolatry?
Is it idolatry to pray to the Virgin Mary or to another saint, or to build statues of these figures? What hanging a crucifix on your wall?
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Hello anons. I've never been a full on Christian but my girlfriend is. We're on a chastity vote and I kinda need help. How do you guys deal with frustration, how do I keep myself from pornography, masturbation and so on. I don't wanna betray her trust anymore
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Have you heard of Gödel's incompleteness theorems?
>The first incompleteness theorem states that no consistent system of axioms whose theorems can be listed by an effective procedure (i.e., an algorithm) is capable of proving all truths about the arithmetic of natural numbers. For any such consistent formal system, there will always be statements about natural numbers that are true, but that are unprovable within the system. The second incompleteness theorem, an extension of the first, shows that the system cannot demonstrate its own consistency.
Not all truths can be proven.
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Don't be fooled by False Christians celebrities, if someone is rich and famous then they either worship Satan, or use him as a guide. Many of them are Freemasons who have to secretly believe that God is Lucifer. You can't be a Christian and a Freemason.
>2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,
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Was it all just in my head?
I used to be very religious in my childhood but I was very worried thar devil is able to speak to us and mislead us. What if he talked to me when I was seeking guidance from God? Which thoughts are even mine? Does God speak to me at all? So I devised an experiment. Since God on omniscient He should clearly know the things I don't. I respectfully explained to Him my worries and started asking Him things that I didn't know but could easily verify them like what is the 15th digit of pi or what is the capital of Sierra Leone? He didn't know absolutely anything and since then no presence has talked to me in my mind ever more. Thoughts?
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What is she? Is she even real? I know other ancient near-eastern religions have similar entities that share an entomology. Is she Adam's wife? Just some demon? The adversary himself?
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Can God save one from retardation?
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>1 but Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
>2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.
>But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
>9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”
>11 “No one, sir,” she said.
>“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”
Why did Jesus stop the thot from being patrolled? Was Jesus a simp?
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The 2006 Blasphemy Challenge
Kind of a sad discovery at first but has a happy ending.
>The “blasphemy challenge” is an internet-based project started in December 2006 which invites young people to submit videos to Youtube or other video internet hosts, in which they record themselves blaspheming or denying the existence of the Holy Spirit. The first 1001 users who took the blasphemy challenge were sent a DVD of Flemming’s film “The God Who Wasn’t There.” (which is some documentary examining the evidence for Christ myth theory, probably for publicity) Celebrity atheists such as Christopher Hitchens, Daniel Dennett, and Penn Jillette participated in the project. Behind the project is the Rational Response Squad, a group of atheists founded by Brian Sapient and Rook Hawkins.
>Key to the motive behind the challenge, is the Rational Response Squad’s view of the so-called unpardonable sin, specifically blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (see Mark 3:28-29 and Matthew 12:30-32). Users who took the challenge, therefore, saw themselves as crossing a point of no return, and would "accept the consequences" if the Christian God does indeed exist.
>While blaspheming the Holy Spirit is a sin, the “blasphemy challenge” fails to understand what precisely is THE blasphemy of the Holy Spirit/unpardonable sin. Denying the existence of the Holy Spirit is not the unpardonable sin. Saying certain words that are insulting towards the Holy Spirit is not THE blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Biblically speaking, THE blasphemy of the Holy Spirit was witnessing Jesus perform a miracle and attributing that power to Satan instead of the Holy Spirit. This specific blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, the unpardonable sin, cannot be committed today. The only unpardonable sin today is dying in hard-hearted rejection of the salvation that is available through Jesus Christ. God can and will forgive any sin, but His offer of forgiveness is only available in this life.
>To summarize, the blasphemy challenge is essentially a statement that a person is so confident God does not exist that he or she is willing to “risk it all” by committing a sin the Bible says God will not forgive. The problem is that the Rational Response Squad misunderstands what the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit was, and underestimates the extent of God’s love, mercy, grace, and forgiveness. As ridiculous, dangerous, and unwise as the blasphemy challenge is, participants are not committing an unforgivable sin. God can and will forgive the blasphemy challenge, just as He will forgive any other sin. Got Forgiveness?
>Romans 1:21-22 describes the Rational Response Squad quite accurately: “For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools...”
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Have you read the book the "the Wanting seed"? It was a dystopia book
Here is a summary of a prophetic part.
>There's no beating around the bush in The Wanting Seed. The novel gets off to a grim start as Beatrice-Joanna Foxe watches the dead body of her infant son get packed off to the Ministry of Agriculture, where it'll be turned into fertilizer. As Beatrice-Joanna struggles to manage her grief, the State Health Service staff shuffle her out as quickly as they can. In a world where human beings outweigh the global food supply, no "modern" person (1.1.9) cries over one less mouth to feed.
>As Beatrice-Joanna leaves the State Health Service, she treats the gay and lesbian staff with "instinctive" (1.1.11) loathing and prejudice. Everywhere she looks, London, England is full of propaganda encouraging homosexuality. Same-sex relations may help to keep the population down, but to her, they seem unnatural and "unclean" (1.1.13).
>The Young Democratic Socialists of America (YDSA) chapter at Texas State University boasted on Twitter about not having any straight members on its E-Board and Coordinating Committee after calling to “guillotine bourgeoisie traitors.”
>The YDSA chapter of Texas State University published a “happy pride month” post on its Twitter account Monday, along with an alternative acronym for LGBT, “Let’s Guillotine Bourgeoisie Traitors.”
>[RELATED: Gov. Greg Abbott: Should taxpayers fund schools like Texas State?]
>In the following post, the chapter also gave a “shout out” to the fact that the group’s E-board and Coordinating Committee “has literally no straight people on it.”
>The group has a history of protesting on campus for issues such as workers’ rights, limiting police on campus, and “the addition of a cultural diversity requirement to the general core curriculum.”
>“We are students organizing in our universities, colleges, and high schools to fight for the immediate needs of workers and students while building our capacity to fight for more radical and structural changes,” the chapter description reads.
[RELATED: Texas State releases more details about MAGA hat arrests]
>“YDSA fights for democratic socialism through active campaigns to improve the lives of working people," the national organization's website reads.
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- Illuminati infiltration of Christian churches. Fritz Springmeier and Timothy Alberino.
Both Catholics and Protestants are infiltrated by the rich families and freemasonry for the one world religion.
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>It was not until the 4th century after Christ that December 25th began to be celebrated as the day of Christ’s birth
>In the year 3 B.C. which we later show by other celestial events in the heavens to be the year of the birth of Jesus Christ, the sun was in this position from August 27th through September 15th
>Revelation also declares that “the moon was under her feet.”
> In 3 B.C. the sun and the moon in Virgo occurred on only one day and that was September 11
>Jesus Christ was born on September 11, 3 B.C sometime in that eighty-one minute span of time between 6:18pm and 7:39pm
Also here's another guy saying the same thing: