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John 3:16 KJV: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Erotic imagery Anonymous 08/11/2022 (Thu) 03:22:24 No.16029 [Reply]
What does Christianity (Catholicism and Baptist especially) say about viewing fictional erotic imagery? Like, fictional pin-up girls, sexualized characters (whether viewed alone in or media like videogames or whatever), maybe even hentai (no masturbating, though). Not including examples in OP post cuz I don't want people who don't want to see that stuff to have to see it. (btw I'm going to bed soon, so I probably won't really be replying until tomorrow evening... if I still remember to check this thread by then.)
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>>18671 From experience of discussing the faith with protestants, I've learned that digging out the quotes doesn't matter at all. If it did, they wouldn't be protestants.
>>18671 Leviticus 15:16-18 16 “If a man has an emission of semen, he shall bathe his whole body in water and be unclean until the evening. 17 And every garment and every skin on which the semen comes shall be washed with water and be unclean until the evening. 18 If a man lies with a woman and has an emission of semen, both of them shall bathe themselves in water and be unclean until the evening.
>>18784 That was commanded of Jews.
>>17931 Serbian film is just a shittier, edgier Life and Death of a Porno Gang. I recommend you to watch this one instead it even has a sinner repenting and going to church.
>>17931 >imagine finding some cartoon girl cool (no matter if it's anthro or not) and have a fictional crush, but no pervy intentions, just to see someone draw her doing something degenerate. Ummm anon, cartoon girls aren't real.

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Anonymous 09/03/2022 (Sat) 18:12:10 ID: 8e281d No.17315 [Reply] [Last]
I am a Catholic that is considering Protestantism. Since I have been trying to be Catholic my conscience is always burdened by sin in an effort to maintain a 'state of grace' and I have increasingly inclined to consider that a sisyphean task as my conscience is seemingly too feeble for that. Catholic apologetics always criticised Protestantism as 'easy believism', but ironically enough that view has become more attractive to me, but now I realise that view is a fringe belief among mainline protestants. So what is even the point of being Protestant if you still have to have works to maintain your salvation?
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>>20918 >pope francis is irrelevant u wot m8 how can you be a catholic and call your own pope irrelevant? if you protest against the pope, that makes you a protestant right?
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-francis-defends-appointment-of-atheist-pro-abortion-economist-to-pontifical-academy-for-life/ Cuck Pope That Catholics have tolerated Francis is an indictment of the Church. We live in an inverse Luther world but the same criticism is still applicable.
>>20918 >1) Latin wasn't kept secret. Latin was a universal language throughout Christendom Amongst intellectuals most of which were the church.
>>20846 >If you don't do good works, you are cut off and thrown into the fire. The relevant verses in the same paragraph as your first image are left out of the image: "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit." This means that good works are produced because we are already changed by Christ. Trying to force yourself to do good works in an attempt to be saved is as silly as a healthy orange tree struggling hard to produce healthy oranges. It happens easily and naturally because the tree is good. Picking an orange off the tree and tasting it is an easy way to tell if the tree itself is good. You'll never find a tree full of good healthy fruit if the tree is diseased inside. >"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven" "Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent." John 6:28-29 You're correct in that repentance is required. But while repentance is commanded, it is also a gift of God. In our fallen, rebellious, sinful state-we would never repent of our own free will if not for the Holy Spirit.

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Adam Green / Know More News Anonymous 09/21/2022 (Wed) 17:06:31 ID: beb696 No.18287 [Reply] [Last]
There's this guy named Adam Green who makes a lot of anti-Christian content on Odysee and Bitchute. He's only really a big deal in the dissident right with around 27,000 followers. Recently he had a debate with an orthobro on The Crucible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_wUIrsAGQk His content is just your typical "Christianity = Da Jooz" stuff, but he brags a lot about how (supposedly) Christians can't answer him. He also talks a lot about Kabbalah and Talmud stuff where he tries to connect it to Christianity. Do you guys know about any major Christian response to him? I know he had debates with E. Michael Jones and with Myles Poland, but is there any other notable attempt at responding to him?
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>>18643 You're right anon. Tacitus used a time machine that allowed him to learn of words that he never could have knew otherwise. Makes perfect sense.
I have sympathy for christians, but I have no sympathy for christianity. That's honestly the best I can do. The only contempt I have for christians are the early christians because I believe that they were all kikes pushing philo semitism on the gentiles as an act of revenge for razing Jerusalem to the ground
>>18574 >The worst Christian emperors have ever done is kick them out of the country, after the populace had been robbed blind by them, which has done nothing but protect them from angry mob rule. The best example you can give is persecution by peasants. Demonstrably wrong. Heraclius in the 7th century ordered the conversion of the Jews after they rebelled against the empire. >Heraclius, assured by the Christian clergy that it was God's will and that a week of fasting would atone for any possible sins, ordered all Jews killed and all synagogues destroyed. >Heraclius ordered forced conversion for all Jews in the Byzantine Empire, but the order was carried out only in Carthage. Heraclius asked the king of the Franks to kill all Jews, but he refused. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/heraclius Granted, this is an isolated case, but it shows you shouldn't make generalizations the way you do.
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>>18665 Christianity came about prior to 70 AD when the Temple was destroyed, you are simply ignorant. Christ predicted that the Temple would fall, as did the prophecies of Daniel. The Temple was destroyed because God was unleashing his wrath on the Jews who rejected the Christ and nailed him to a cross. Ancient Christianity was not philosemitic. Ironically, you also use the term 'kike' which designates the Jews' fear of the Cross of Christ.
>>18665 The Christ or Messiah is a fulfillment of God's promise from the beginning. You should read the source material of something and study and seek to understand it in depth before making such attacks because it really doesn't have the effect you think it does.

Islam Thread Anonymous 09/03/2022 (Sat) 23:11:29 ID: 8287c9 No.17347 [Reply] [Last]
For discussions/debate/dialogue related to Islam.
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>>20622 I hear a lot about your race but not much about God. Perhaps your race is still your God?
>>21084 It isn't arguing on behalf of God nor does he try to correct our misunderstandings with a gentle yet firm respect for a fellow believer in Christ. It literally identifies as God. It wants so badly to punish all who oppose God(itself) in any way possible. God is absolute. God is never wrong. Just like anonymous. You have no authority, rome has no authority, mankind has no authority. Only it(God) has authority.
Search for ‘raisin-heads’ in the Quran and Hadiths.
>>20622 Shill post? Using capital B 'black' is a telltale of american progressive racial idolatry. Also how would people even know you are hispanic online so that you would often be called 'spic'? Are you constantly bringing up your race for no reason? As in this very post? You know pretty well that on the 'chans' if you bring up your identity whatever it might be, people will mock it, nothing to do with Christianity. Woman - show boobs American - fat European - fag English - bad teeth Muslim - goat rapist etc
>>21093 >Shill post? Clearly. But OTOH, let it stand. Islamists are probably the singularly most racist bunch on the entire planet, which anyone who actually engages with them in more than a cursory manner can testify. And it's served them quite well. Just like the kikes, they have a rabid army of simps & cucks at their very beck & call, ready to defend them to the death against Christianity, and the White European race that has done more to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ around the planet than any other group in history. Universal Charity is a deeply-Christian held belief and mandate. Muh "Dass RAYCISS!111" spergouts are not. Racism is well-established Biblically, and brings many benefits to the table for a given society. It's certainly serving the first two mentioned quite well. I suppose China will be the next purveyors of the Gospel into all the world? Chinese Christians are properly balanced on these topics AFAICT, and are literally laying their lives down as martyrs to defend the faith. Precious few Whites are today, now that such as OP are they typical norm for us.

/christian/ ICUP thread Anonymous 08/18/2022 (Thu) 06:33:31 No.16239 [Reply] [Last]
lets discuss the upcoming icup and our team https://infinitycup.miraheze.org/wiki//christian/ https://cytu.be/r/infinitycup we'll be playing on Saturday at approx 19:30 against /otter/ i know its too late to make any indepth changes but if we want we can still change our music or things like that when the cup is over i think we should discuss changes we want to make for future cups i think we should update the roster and maybe make a 3rd kit for the team or something
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Starting soon Which teams will move on and which ones will bite the dust? Find out over at https://cytu.be/r/infinitycup
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Infinity Cup 7 is now complete! Congratulations to /eris/ who joins the ranks of champions as they defeated /japan/ 3-1 in the Final! Stay tuned for the award winners over at our /icup/ board. Thank you to every anon who chipped in throughout the Cup, and thank you especially to all the anons who took the time to tune in. We'll see you in the next one!
>>17813 anime defeats Christianity?

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After sunday/saturday general Anonymous 10/30/2022 (Sun) 16:53:07 ID: b254a4 No.20698 [Reply]
i want to use this thread to talk about our day in the church, even in between week services >how was the services? >how was the worship? >what did you learned? >did you feel real communion with your brothers in christ? >there was something that you didnt like? that kind of stuff
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>>20734 >"sins" that you cannot change e.g. convert grown children. What is meant by this?
>>20768 Official dogma of the Church is that 1) You must raise your children Catholic. (that may be a fallible and defectable "Church Law" ) 2) If you convert after you're married and have children, you can keep your pagan wife and are still obligated to support your pagan children. This is definitive Catholic faith. The issue comes when you're baptized Catholic but not raised Catholic. Then it's a mortal sin. If you're given a valid baptism and raised Anglican or Lutheran, no problem!
>>20772 If I'm understanding correctly, are you saying that if a Catholic parent, for whatever reason, does not raise their children Catholic, or not Catholic enough, they are barred from communion permanently or for an extensive length of time?
>>20782 Depending upon the priest, if the priest has jurisdiction and is a valid Priest. A FSSP priest would say God forgives the sin with repentance and the Child reaches the age of Reason. Those under Bishop Sanborn would hold the sin until the child, even as an adult, converts.
>>20823 I am so sorry man, that sounds awful. I'll be praying for you and your family.

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Christian anime thread Anonymous 09/09/2022 (Fri) 01:45:42 ID: a9ff60 No.17692 [Reply] [Last]
Talk about wholesome shows and cute waifus.
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Can anyone recommend some good, preferably old or obscure, romance anime? I could use something new to watch.
>>20480 Dresses have skirts. Please be nice instead of looking for reasons to be rude and abusive.
>>20684 Yuri on ice is one obscure straight romance anime.
This thread has become a borderline /a/ exclave and I really don't know why I kept it up for this long. I gave it the benefit of the doubt at first but after seeing all the posts advocating for yuri/shota (aka homosex) and other degenerate animes this thread has no place here. Locked.

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Clean & Unclean Foods & Dietary Laws Anonymous 10/17/2022 (Mon) 16:21:55 ID: 590b03 No.20175 [Reply]
There seems to be a lot of confusion about what the Bible means when it speaks of clean and unclean foods.Clean and unclean food Put very simply, these are the Bible's dietary laws that if followed can lead to a long and healthy life. The question is: Can we trust the ancient words of the Bible? And what about modern science. Does it support or discredit God's dietary laws? I have found that there are many Christians today who are unaware that the Bible states that our bodies are not our own and that they were bought with a price which was the death of Christ. Scripture also informs us that it is our responsibility to look after these bodies that are on loan to us. But sadly, these are facts that many would rather not acknowledge. Most would rather the well known sea food diet, that is, everything and anything we see that appeals to our eyes and nose. Unfortunately, these are foods that are often very damaging to our bodies and result in us dying from cancer and heart attacks because of our love for food! Most people live to eat rather than eat to live as God intended. Note the following relevant scriptures. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 “What? Know you not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which you have of God, and you are not your own? 20 For you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.” And 1 Corinthians 10:31 “Whether therefore you eat, or drink, or whatsoever you do, do all to the glory of God.” Do we defile our bodies if we knowingly eat foods laced with chemicals that can make the body sick and die? Sadly, most of us do and without any fear of the following warning. 1 Corinthians 3:17 “If any man defiles the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.” It is easy to mock God's Word and say it has no relevance to our physical lives today. But it is amazing though, how very interested someone can become in what God has to say when lying on a deathbed because of a decadent lifestyle. Sadly, it is usually too late to effect changes in their lifestyle by that time. It is better to stay in denial, right? When we find ourselves lying in a hospital bed and dying, then we say, “I don't want to die! I better change to a healthy diet so I might live. Please someone, tell me what should I do and eat so that I can beat this illness and live?”Good Bible food God already told us what to eat when he gave us His dietary laws with clean foods and unclean foods, but most do not care to listen and mock God's instructions until they suddenly find themselves on their deathbed wondering how they got that way! If only we had listened in the first place.

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>>20649 If a believer struggles with the sin of sexual lust for example then maybe they shouldn't go to a website that hosts porn? Just now there was another wave of cp spam too.
>>20660 temptation is everywhere in this world.
>Acts 10:10-15 Explain this
>>20665 The answer is on down in v28: >"28 He said to them: “You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with or visit a Gentile. But God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean." >tl;dr It was a Holy Spirit given vision to Peter that non-Jews would recieve salvation too.
>>20694 Yeah and it still says what it says about food.

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Anonymous 10/24/2022 (Mon) 00:08:08 ID: 165c52 No.20474 [Reply]
Why didn't anyone tell me it was this easy to spot lousy bible translations? Christ's resurrection is central to the faith, he literally resurrected, not just "in spirit". And if Christ declared all foods clean (unclean animals weren't even considered food to the apostles or judeans who followed Christ), then why did Peter not understand the vision in Acts initially until it was revealed to him that he should not call any man unclean or common (Acts 10:28) rather than God abolishing dietary laws, as clearly understood when read in context.
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And those also wondering: How come we don't have to sacrifice animals as God commanded which he said was forever? How come we don't need to be circumcised? How come Paul says not to judge over what others eat or whether they keep sabbaths? James and Peter say we shouldn't trouble the gentiles with Torah, they just say to stay away from eating blood, isn't that removing commandments? God says all these things like feasts and whatnot are commandments forever!? Mustard seeds, you were never under the Sinai covenant to have those commandments removed. The reason God says do not add or remove commandants is because if you are under the Sinai Covenant (the Old Covenant) then obviously yes you cannot remove commandments. You have to keep the whole Torah, not just the dietary laws, or the day sabbath, please actually read Torah to see all you'll have to do. You have to keep the old covenant if you are in the old covenant. That's why orthodox Jews reject Christianity. Because they believe Jeremiah 31:31 is referring to a refreshing of the same covenant 616 laws and all the rest of it. The covenant was broken the Jews failed to keep it, and if you go under it you'll fail too. Keeping the commandments to love one another, to stay away from sin, you really need to do that, it's not going to be healthy though if you think you're going to be judged for not living as the Jews do, the Law is fulfilled in the Messiah: that means we are no longer under bondage, we no longer have to make constant animal sacrifices which was arguably the most important constant commandment. We have an eternal rest in Christ. And you should I hope have the law written on your heart as God says, Paul describes. That law is reflected in the Torah but while God commanded to stone anyone who blasphemed his name, If you did that today, stoned someone to death for speaking evil against God, would you get good favour with Jesus? I think your answer to that would say it all whether you are born again or not. There are things you should understand when reading the Bible, you cannot take out one part one verse and say this applies because trust me you can do that with everything, you'll end up being a complete mess. You have to understand the whole. When you go through Torah you need to understand what's going on, you need to understand why Christians don't celebrate Passover anymore despite it being one of many "forever commandments". And it's for this reason it's understandable why Jews are so against the idea that suddenly these commandments no longer seem forever. As if God only began to exist in 1400s BC when he made the Sinai Covenant but the promise of Messiah and saviour of the world was made to Abraham long before the Sinai covenant which I don't know how many times I can say it the New Covenant is different, clearly, we don't have a physical tabernacle for animal sacrifice. But getting into that seems a bit too much. "Well I understand how Passover is fulfilled and sacrifices are fulfilled but pork and fat is not fulfilled!" Pork and fat is just a bad idea to eat, but again, you cannot commanded of others when you are a christian to keep a covenant you're not even (hopefully) apart of and I believe Jesus did accomplish what he said he would. If you wish to be part of the Old Covenant (or at least pretend to) you may. I cannot stop you and I will not judge you for doing so. Please do not judge others for being part of the new covenant, especially gentiles, judizing them. There's a reason Paul is constantly writing things like: we are dead to the law(Torah), we are not under the law(Torah), gentiles don't have the law(Torah), literally says stop arguing about the law(Torah), don't judge by the law(Torah) least you be judged by it. What is he really saying? He basically says if you are under the law you're basically not saved. (Galatians 5:4) You are alienated from Christ, you who desire to be justified by the law. You have fallen away from grace. And you say "I'm not trying to be justified but God wants us to keep... certain Torah statutes." Just certain ones? And those are reiterated in the New Testament, such as not eating blood and if you need to be told not to fornicate you are fallen far far from God. The point is: be careful and do not judizie others, it's fine to promote saturday sabbath or not to wear clothes of wool and linen woven together. You call people idiots and God haters and all this stuff for not doing it you'll be in for a shock when as you judge by saying "it's in the Torah" you will be judged by the same Torah. "Oh but those are just little commandments in the Torah, they don't matter." Well, you'll see I suppose. But I tell you: you literally are not part of a covenant that no longer exists.
>>20625 ooooh man, I deleted and lost my post I just made. ooooh. OOOOH painful. Well I think the point has been made anyways, I was just going to say how likewise you cannot remove new covenant commandments, oooh maaaaan. I only saved part of the post in the clip board. Oh well: And the lists of sinful things in the New Testament are always tired, Paul is basically saying 'why do I even have to tell you guys what is sin, you should already know: don't do this and that.' In fact one thing he mentions is covenant breakers. And I will ask you have you broken the Sinai Covenant? If you were under it then yes you would have and there is not the same grace in that covenant, it is a worse covenant (Hebrews 8:6, Hebrews 7:27). You cannot look at the Torah, take out all the commandments (or the ones you want) and say "here's what God wants." God told Hebrews in 1400 BC to do many specific certain things, is it a shock to you they may not apply to you right now today?
>>20618 >You say not to add or remove commandments yet, you then say that animal sacrifices are not necessary. You're arguing like a "jew" synagogue of satanist. I'm done with you, lawless preacher. >>20619 It's clear to see what's added to and remove from the text. If Christ abolished the dietary laws, as the false translations claim, why did peter not understand the dream God gave him? Why did peter refuse to eat what's unclean? Why did God reveal it to him that it was about people? Therefore, we can prove from the scripture, that text is not inspired. It's that simple. But you apostates keep coping and being dishonest kikes. >>20627 >ooooh man, I deleted and lost my post I just made. ooooh. OOOOH painful. I'm not even reading everything you write because there is no light in you, as say the prophets, who Christ didn't destroy.
>>20647 You're arguing like a "jew" synagogue of satanist. I'm done with you, lawless preacher.
>>20661 I'm not "saying" this to you. I'm merely holding up a mirror in hopes that you see the vitriol you spew in the name of God and that through the holy spirit you might see how this does not help a believer affirm his faith in God or convince a non-believer in the authority of the one and only God. A powerful God that doesn't need brash and obscene cheer leaders.

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Anonymous 10/22/2022 (Sat) 15:10:17 ID: 099702 No.20413 [Reply]
"How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?"
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>>20559 Well, there's your problem, you're reading [i]and quoting text that is nowhere in the thread.[/i] We can't argue with your demons.
>>20491 Peter didn't admit. Christ the Son of God said that God the Father Allmighty, creator of heaven and earth, revealed the divinity of Christ as the Son of God.
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>>20493 Hitler grew up Catholic. His problem with Catholics is that many in the German Church were Marxist that went by "Liberation Theology". Hitler followed the divine teaching of The Council of Basel to separate the faithful from the wicked Jews. If the rest of the world had been as faithful as Hitler, we wouldn't have seen the world become Another Sodom.
>>20591 Here is what God said in Matthew 16. You reject God and put in your own words. I don't think that has pleased God. Matthew 16 13 And Jesus came into the quarters of Caesarea Philippi: and he asked his disciples, saying: Whom do men say that the Son of man is? 14 But they said: Some John the Baptist, and other some Elias, and others Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 Jesus saith to them: But whom do you say that I am? 16 Simon Peter answered and said: Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answering, said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven.
>>20605 It's spam, he posted the same post here >>20598

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