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The Saturn conspiracy and why it's not applicable to Christianity Anonymous 10/19/2021 (Tue) 03:50:41 No.1711 [Reply]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwmvM-sUep4 Video explaining the position against Christianity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzo-cJgeKT4 Some arguments against the Christian side of the Saturn conspiracy and the accusation that YHWH is saturn. >Revelation 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp "sickle". Of course God is depicted this instance with a sickle hes specifically doing a harvest, The Christian God isn't normally with a sickle. >Revelation 21:17 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. 17And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. We don't worship New Jerusalem. >The Christian Cross looks like the Saturn astrology symbol or The Christian cross folds in 3D for form a cube. We don't (or shouldn't) worship the Christian cross, for this very reason, but Catholics don't listen. The Saturn Conspiracy almost gets the influence of Satan right, but makes an uneducated attack on Christianity, and when you try to defend Christianity you get called biased.
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>>1711 >Son of Man Usually, this refers to a Human, not God. See distinct references to the "Son of God" and "Son of Man." >We don't worship New Jerusalem I don't see how this applies to the Saturn conspiracy being wrong or incompatible. Yes, we do not worship Saturn. Saturn is Satan, and we do not worship Satan. >We don't worship the Christain cross No, but the cross is the symbol of our God, isn't it? We don't pray to nor adore the cross itself, but the meaning it carries. Nobody worships symbols, they worship their meaning. If you consider that the Crucifix represents Christ and his enlightening, then the folded up equivalent could, and should, easily represent a negation of that enlightening. To clarify: I am not a Catholic, nor do I align immensely in any belief of such a theory, but I have long known about the symbolic representation of the Cube, Hexagon, and Saturn itself in its various forms. I think that _if any_ planet would represent the Godly antithesis, it would be Saturn. The Muslim tomb of Muhammad being a black cube, the Jewish worn black cube, and the intricacies of the Talmudic star all seem to conveniently line up in a distinctly anti-Christian manner.
>>1948 >I don't see how this applies to the Saturn conspiracy being wrong or incompatible. The reason it's pointed out by Saturn conspiracy theorists is to imply an indirect worship to Saturn/Satan instead of God. >but the cross is the symbol of our God, isn't it? The cross is ancient, it was used by not only Saturn, but also the pagan god Tammuz. >Nobody worships symbols, they worship their meaning. True, but It's kind of difficult to pin point the spiritual aspects of symbols, but there is power to invoke or ward off demons in symbols, as well as sigil magic. However i don't know very much about it. Does idolatry stop being idolatry if you're using the symbol to pray for God? If you worship God on a pagan alter does it offend God? The Satanists reverse what is holy to get the attention of the devil. If you have any books on this subject or The Saturn Conspiracy/symbolism i'd love to hear them.
>>1998 >The cross is ancient, it was used by not only Saturn, but also the pagan god Tammuz. As Christ has died and resurrected to purify our sins and destroy hell, the paganistic context of the cross has also been purified. That also might be why we praise the Crucifix, not just any "plus" mark.

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Anonymous 12/13/2021 (Mon) 19:10:38 No.2028 [Reply]
Hope everyone on this board has a blessed day :)))).
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>>2028 Thank you fren, It's a struggle trying to be the best version of oneself, but one must try. God be with you fren.
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>>2028 >>2029 Hoping both of you are not only blessed today, but that your hopes and dreams begin to come true very soon. Much love to you.

I need help Gabriel S. 11/26/2021 (Fri) 16:42:23 No.1993 [Reply]
I am having trouble praying, I struggle with lust, I have an attraction that is destroying me, if I get interested in something I always end up making it my idol, I am a pmo and dopamine, I suffer abuse, struggle with self control, rebellion and laziness, please help me for I don't know what to do .
I forgot to put the word "addict" after the word dopamine, sorry. -May God bless you all.
>>1993 I would say try to remove anything that causes you to sin, go to church and talk to your pastor or priest. I will pray for you.
Also you don't have to and probably shouldn't put your name and first letter of your last name in the name field.
>>1993 When I stopped I was already convinced to the core of how evil fornication is. And how pointless masturbation was from personal experience. But I struggled to do it alone. After a surge of faith and some sincere prayers it just got so easier. I still needed to resist but it was easy. But that might be my personal case. I also was a smoker and also got rid of it just by myself (wasn't religious). From what I read you might need healing too. So pray for that and for good friends and get good council from your father. Because you might be trying to mask your pain with the addictions
>>1993 Find yourself foods that are good sources of copper. I found it greatly improved self-control.

My experince at a prayer walk Anonymous 11/28/2021 (Sun) 05:41:02 No.2001 [Reply]
Today i had a good day, i was invited to a prayer walk by a new Christian friend i met at a community Bible group nearby. There were 12 of us, we all went around town praying for and blessing people and telling our testimonies. I though there would be people who would be against it (since we live in a very liberal area) but most where Christians themselves and were happy that we would pray for them. One of the new Christian friends said he had given his life to Christ and had Christ living in him, he asked if he could pray for me and i said yes, and he covertly acknowledged the sins i've been struggling with in his prayer.

Persecutor Letter Anonymous 10/19/2021 (Tue) 07:32:03 No.1712 [Reply]
Does anyone have that letter from a Roman persecutor complaining of how Christians reacted with love and happiness at every horror done to them? It was inspiring.
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>>1712 >>1969 >Be Christianity >Most persecuted religion in Rome >a few centuries past >become official Roman State religion >then become the only religion >eventually become the most Christian state on planet earth (Eastern Roman Empire and Vatican respectively) >Land that belonged to Rome still has the highest amount of Christians in Europe to this day Funny how life turns out
>>1969 No. It's already been suggested in other places I asked. Perhaps it was an account of how early Christians lived in the earliest communities or something. I just remember it described how happy and forgiving Christians were with their neighbors and such.

Roman empire Anonymous 09/17/2021 (Fri) 01:27:21 No.1510 [Reply]
Can anyone debunk the the theory that Revelation was about events happening contemporaneous to its writing, like revelation being about the Roman empire?
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>>1510 There can be multiple fulfilments of prophecy OP.
>>1609 >If the apocalypse is in the future than you get to have a little time to live your life I don't know where you get that. In Mark 13:32-33 it says, "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is." And in 2 Peter 3 it says, "10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?" It makes perfect sense that the end times are still coming. There was also this parable told in Luke: "And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth. And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully: And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits? And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods. And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.

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>>1607 Disconnection, colonies are made by the unwanted from society, they would hate the earthlings or simply don't agree with their live-style, also technical problems,it would be to make an interplanetary communication system like the internet . So they would grow up with Christian values or other values that are less degenerate , while being isolated,also in revelation they never speak of the outer colonies falling.
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>>1870 Homosexual registered. >>1581 I agree. It seems inevitable, or at least our greatest destiny as Humanity to conquer space. Do consider this: Revelation makes no distinction between any provinces or areas, only saying "empire." In that, couldn't one consider that "empire" to be star-sprawling?
>>1947 You can add the Epistle of Barnabas or Martin Luther to the list in that image, I'm sure there's more if you dig around.

Prayers of Healing Anonymous 11/16/2021 (Tue) 23:49:26 No.1857 [Reply]
My friend's father just suffered a stroke. I do not know many Christian places on the internet, but this is one of them. Please send him prayers of good health, it would destroy my friend if he passed. Recommendations of healing prayers much appreciated.
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>>1857 I'm just passing through and don't belong here, but I hope he gets better. I don't think that this board (or you) will agree with it, but Joseph Murphy's work seems to have helped a lot of people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoDWyB9LYbs >>1866 You're being a dick.
>>1884 >You're being a dick. watch your mouth...
>>1857 May the Lord God restore this man in body, mind and spirit. In whichever so way he works his wonders, in accordance with his will, may his sovereign might deliver this man from his ailments. Such, being healed, he may be a witness towards His glory on earth and in the world to come. In the name of Jesus, Amen.

Where do we draw the line for idolatry? Anonymous 10/02/2021 (Sat) 16:52:27 No.1614 [Reply]
Is it idolatry to pray to the Virgin Mary or to another saint, or to build statues of these figures? What hanging a crucifix on your wall?
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I don't really understand the accusations of worshipping Mary thrown at Catholics. Certainly she is venerated but I've never seen a Catholic elevate her to godhood or anything like that. What is wrong with having a crucifix on your wall?
>>1790 >just veneration She is also seen as Mediatrix and Co-Redemptrix.
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>>1650 >get a girlfriend
>>1706 TIL The Jews staged a Counter-Reformation to the Reformation they staged.
>>1614 I've often belived that the modern church conflates idolitary with obsession, or monomania. Few would truly belive that money, or some sort of celeberity, or video game is a higher order being, like the people of old would have thought of those worshiped at the high places. The Bible seems clear, to me at least that the real issue is when you worship someone else as a god. Not when you simply prioritize something over your relationship with Christ the Almighty. Yet I would never claim insight over Brother Yun, who claimed missions work to have become "an idol" to him at one point. I think the church needs a word to distinguish between pagan religious practices that violate the first and second commandment, and mere warped, priorities that can mess one's life up.

Chastity Anonymous 10/29/2021 (Fri) 23:37:46 No.1734 [Reply]
Hello anons. I've never been a full on Christian but my girlfriend is. We're on a chastity vote and I kinda need help. How do you guys deal with frustration, how do I keep myself from pornography, masturbation and so on. I don't wanna betray her trust anymore
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>>1762 I wasn't with God during those times. I certainly did not grow out of it, and still feel temptation greatly.
>>1734 Maybe ask her to punch you or something if she catches you slipping? That kind of physical reaffirment does work, even if painful.
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>>1734 As I have always strived to do in the face of these adversities, and have succeeded in doing: Remind yourself when you feel aroused or sexual. I suggest, perhaps, you even change your desktop/phone background to pic related. Every time you look at your screen, you will be reminded, and soon, you will not need it at all. The faggot above me doesn't want you to self-improve or find meaning in your life. Remember his pathetic attempt to stop you, for that is your enemy: the weak and mentally feable horde of tools. Now watch him greentext this.
>>1864 I'm noticing a pattern with this soyjack and the webring...
>>1906 The fact that it's coming from another place full of really obnoxious people?

Mathematic logic Anonymous 09/27/2021 (Mon) 05:27:07 No.1579 [Reply]
Have you heard of Gödel's incompleteness theorems? >The first incompleteness theorem states that no consistent system of axioms whose theorems can be listed by an effective procedure (i.e., an algorithm) is capable of proving all truths about the arithmetic of natural numbers. For any such consistent formal system, there will always be statements about natural numbers that are true, but that are unprovable within the system. The second incompleteness theorem, an extension of the first, shows that the system cannot demonstrate its own consistency. Not all truths can be proven.
>>1579 I personally think God did this intentionally to test us, if there was clear prove we wouldn't have faith, if tomorrow the laws of physic changes , maybe earth gravity is 3 instead of 9.8, I wouldn't' care ,but if you say Jesus was wrong in something ,and I'm outraged or confused of why would someone say that. Humans don't have faith in provable thing ,they just believe because it's obligatory ,I bet people would eat rocks if they could. But I disagree with you in your claim that there isn't evidence,what about Jesus,what about his historical records and other which confirm the Bible,what about the how are brains are distributed(the left one although smarter have does more bad such as lying and searching own benefit,while the right one remembers people and do things which don't hurts other),what about the similarities between the bible and ""Real"" history such as Adam and Eve?
>>1583 You never had faith. There's clear proof of God if you just study metaphysics like a little bit. Faith in god isn't faith in his existence. It's faith IN God. It's not faith that there is a pilot on the plane. It's faith that the pilot of the plane will bring you to your destination.
>>1587 >There's clear proof of God if you just study metaphysics like a little bit. Would you recommend any good books on the subject of a metaphysical Christian God?
>>1587 >But I disagree with you in your claim that there isn't evidence My point wasn't, that God was only threw faith,what I meant is that is more tricker discover at a personal level rather than natural things, at least with a modenr midne
>there will always be statements about natural numbers >natural numbers Is god a natural number?

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