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John 3:16 KJV: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


Merry Christmas Anonymous 12/25/2022 (Sun) 06:49:05 ID: bb424d No.22586 [Reply]
Merry Christmas
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>>22586 Merry Christmas!
merry christmas anons, what did you get? i bought myself a new keyboard!
>>22586 Merry Christmas! >>22600 >what did you get? I got a couple of new cats.
Merry Christmas!
Who is the jannie that deleted my posts?

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Evangelizing the Jews Anonymous 09/07/2022 (Wed) 00:52:08 ID: f02acc No.17577 [Reply]
ITT: post resources and advice for refuting the Jewish religion and demonstrating that the Christian religion is the religion of the Tanakh. Real Messiah youtube channel (Rev. Dr. Michael Brown answers Jewish objections to Jesus): https://youtube.com/c/RealMessiah/videos Particularly good vid from the above, "Psalm 22 does not speak of death by crucifixion" https://youtu.be/5QdbLUKhVcE One For Israel youtube channel (Israeli Christians make arguments and counter-arguments against Judaism, also many testimonies from Jewish converts to Christianity) https://youtube.com/c/ONEFORISRAEL Some personal tips for evangelizing Jews from my own experience: firstly recognize that the Jews come in a few categories. Jewish atheists are not relevant to this thread, they should be dealt with as any other atheist. Some Jews will view Jesus as a wise rabbi, most who oppose you will view Him as a sorcerer (this should not surprise you as we see much the same division between the unbelieving Jews in the gospels). Some Jews will be more or less informed about their religion and ours, but the ones to watch out for are those (typically orthodox but probably at least conservative) who are highly educated on this topic and make it their mission to oppose you, the counter-missionaries. You ought to be well read yourself in theology and the Old Testament before you argue with them. Isaiah 53 is generally not the best place to start, not because it is a weak point for us or that it does not actually point to Jesus but because the counter-missionaries can reply to it in their sleep, you won't get anywhere by getting the opposition to rehearse. Your best bet is to 1. demonstrate the inconsistencies of the Jewish religion with the Old Testament scriptures and 2. hit on lesser known Messianic prophecies which are clearly fulfilled in Jesus. For example of point 1 the fact the Jews have no priests and offer no sacrifice, yet this is the foundation of biblical religion. They will respond to this in two ways, they will attack this biblical truth by attempting to set certain scriptures which denigrate sacrifices and which especially exalt repentance against the scriptures which require sacrifice. Answer by pointing out how men always offered sacrifice to God even before Abraham, as Cain and Abel did. Explain the failure of their interpretation of the other scriptures, for example how the blood of goats and calves was indeed worth little, the only fit offering was that of the Son of God Himself. The other attack they make is to boldly dismiss the necessity of sacrifice out of hand by boldly asserting that sin offerings were only for unintentional sins, this particular response can be cut down with the mere citation of Leviticus 16, but if they persist you should exegete that scripture to keep them from twisting it. An example of point 2 is how scripture repeatedly prophesied that He would convert the gentiles e.g. Micah 4. This is a particularly good argument for us gentiles, because we can cite the example of our ancestors who once worshipped false gods whom we have long since forgotten. There have been many false messiahs and the Jews will agree with this, they never did anything like fulfill this prophecy, so how can Jesus be a false Messiah when through Him I now worship the Lord and not Wodanaz, whom my ancestors have forgotten for a thousand and a half years? The Jews will assume, assert and act like their religion is that of the Old Testament, and Christianity is something else. You must not let them do this. They splintered off from the truth and apostatized into a false religion, they have no right to any of the scriptures which are properly inherited by ourselves, God's covenant people. You must reprove and correct their presumption that they stand in the tradition of Moses even though it will bring insults and mockery at the least. Do not be ashamed or afraid to assert the authority and legitimacy of the New Testament revelation, or its consistency with Old Testament revelation, or the sharp inconsistency of the Talmud with the Old Testament. But you also should not unnecessarily offend them; be willing to write G-d instead of God, call the Old Testament the Tanakh, and absolutely do not use the divine name unless you truly have no alternative. Do not go out of your way to offend them, the gospel is offensive enough.
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>>18822 Anonymous has no authority. I believe in the authority of the Father, the Son and the holy spirit.
>>20662 Do you believe that your parents were given authority over you by God?
>>18808 Christ said they were the synagogue of Satan because they turned the judaism into a money worshipping hole, after Rome destroyed their Temple their satan worship stopped. So the synagogue of Satan switched with the Islam, they worship the Devil and as such they're the ones we should evangelize while jews live and die in their sin
>>20655 >>20668 Please ignore this individual. They are a notorious troll on this board who try to steer every thread into a Protestant vs. Catholic slap fight.
>>23167 What do you make of the commandment "Honor thy father and mother"? What about Malachi 1:6 6 The son honoureth the father, and the servant his master: if then I be a father, where is my honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear? saith the Lord of hosts. Honor seems to mean "obey" as well as not be critical of them. if you feel an anon posted something in error, it is the Christian way to correct them.

Pope Benedict XVI dies at the age of 95 years on the vigil of the new year Anonymous 01/01/2023 (Sun) 13:22:55 ID: bc8e54 No.22803 [Reply]
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2022-12/pope-emeritus-benedict-xvi-dies-aged-95.html >Farewell to Benedict XVI: ‘Humble worker in the vineyard of the Lord' >The 95-year-old Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI passed away on Saturday at 9:34 AM in his residence at the Vatican's Mater Ecclesiae Monastery. >Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI has returned to the Father’s House. The Holy See Press Office announced that the Pope Emeritus died at 9:34 AM on Saturday morning in his residence at the Mater Ecclesiae Monastery, which the 95-year-old Pope emeritus had chosen as his residence after resigning from the Petrine ministry in 2013. >“With sorrow I inform you that the Pope Emeritus, Benedict XVI, passed away today at 9:34 AM in the Mater Ecclesiae Monastery in the Vatican. Further information will be provided as soon as possible. As of Monday morning, 2 January 2023, the body of the Pope Emeritus will be in Saint Peter's Basilica so the faithful can pay their respects." >Funeral plans >During a briefing at the Holy See Press office, the director, Matteo Bruni, told journalists that Pope Francis will preside over the funeral of the Pope Emeritus on 5 January at 9.30 CET in St. Peter's Square. No tickets are foreseen for participation in the Mass. >"Quite soon, I shall find myself before the final judge of my life. Even though, as I look back on my long life, I can have great reason for fear and trembling, I am nonetheless of good cheer, for I trust firmly that the Lord is not only the just judge, but also the friend and brother who himself has already suffered for my shortcomings, and is thus also my advocate, my “Paraclete.” In light of the hour of judgement, the grace of being a Christian becomes all the more clear to me. It grants me knowledge, and indeed friendship, with the judge of my life, and thus allows me to pass confidently through the dark door of death." - Pope Benedict XVI, Letter to the Archdiocese of Munich, 8 February 2022
>>22803 Regarding Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, his "service" in the Hitler Youth, and his handling of the abuse crisis (copied from https://www.reddit.com/r/Catholicism/comments/1000jd1/regarding_pope_emeritus_benedict_xvi_his_service/ ) When he was 14, Benedict XVI (then Joseph Ratzinger; popes, upon election, normally take a papal name in honor of a predecessor or another figure who has inspired their life) was conscripted into the Hitler Youth. This was mandatory at the time in Germany; all youth were conscripted into the Hitler Youth, he had no decision in the matter. Young Joseph Ratzinger's family were ardent anti-Nazis, and he refused to attend Hitler Youth meetings. The Simon Wiesenthal Center congratulated Benedict XVI on being elected pope, and acknowledged the same in their message to him, which would seem hardly appropriate if Benedict XVI had some sort of Nazi sympathy or past. Plainly, those who continue to slander Benedict XVI as a Nazi are either utterly ignorant, or simply blindly hateful. As pope, Benedict XVI reigned during one of the most difficult periods in the Church's history. Many reports of sexual abuse by members of the clergy was coming to light for the first time in the decades since it had happened (the vast majority of abuse occurred between the 50s and 70s--a period during which sexual libertinism was sweeping most of the West--but not reported publicly until the 90s and early 00s). As part of the prior pontificate, then-Cardinal Ratzinger was responsible for the release of new procedures for handling clerical abuse cases, and as pope, Benedict XVI removed not only hundreds of priests, but likely hundreds of bishops as part of his response to allegations of abuse. In Germany, there have been reports by media outlets that Benedict XVI failed to take action against an abusive priest while he was bishop there, but the reporting on the story has been misleading at best, maliciously biased at worst. As Pope Emeritus, Benedict XVI addressed the topic directly, himself just this year. https://www.wiesenthal.com/about/news/statement-by-simon-wiesenthal.html https://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/motu_proprio/documents/hf_jp-ii_motu-proprio_20020110_sacramentorum-sanctitatis-tutela.html https://apnews.com/article/242c784432fb49e682d50c00998380e1 http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/1350268bdc4.html?eng=y https://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2022/02/10/did-benedict-xvi-cover-up-clerical-sexual-abuse/ https://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2022/02/08/220208b.html
>>22804 (continuation) If you want to read a short article on myths about the clergy sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic Church by a non-Catholic source, you can do so here. Additional sources which may re-frame the hindsight bias of "but why didn't they take action then, that we know is appropriate now?" may be found in the scientific literature surrounding how paraphilias were understood and treated in the era most of the abuse occurred, such as this brief history on behavioral approaches to sex offenders or brief overview of theory and treatment (e.g., "Mohr, Turner, and Jerry (1964), on the other hand, in their study of child molesters concluded that these offenders were typically "harmless fondlers,"; but their database was simply the reports of the offenders. Unfortunately, Mohr et al.’s study gained widespread publicity and appeared to convince some people in the justice system in Canada that child molestation, in all but exceptional cases, did not harm the victims so extensively that a prison sentence was warranted.") If you want to read the Church in the United States' report on sexual abuse, you can do so here. Suffice to say, Reddit can be a place where some users find community, but others feel it is appropriate to spew vile hatred out of either malicious or innocent ignorance (as has happened before on /r/Catholicism regarding other issues surrounding the Church). Many parts of Reddit are today showing their "true colors," so to speak, in continuing to slander one of the world's foremost theologians and a man who contributed greatly to the Church's reform and revitalization in many parts of the world. Let's pray for our departed and beloved Pope Emeritus, and for all of those who would slander him, that they may grow closer to the Lord our God, the source of all Truth. https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/do-the-right-thing/201003/six-myths-about-clergy-sexual-abuse-in-the-catholic-church https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1022325231175 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11920-018-0920-0 https://www.usccb.org/sites/default/files/issues-and-action/child-and-youth-protection/upload/The-Causes-and-Context-of-Sexual-Abuse-of-Minors-by-Catholic-Priests-in-the-United-States-1950-2010.pdf https://www.reddit.com/r/Catholicism/comments/o7yu1m/megathread_residential_schools_in_canada_and/
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Some videos and news, for who may be interested: <Bidding farewell to Benedict XVI: Translation to St. Peter's Basilica https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0vmyUJSAAM <Thousands queue to pay respects to Pope Benedict XVI at the Vatican https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UUeKBr4ziw >Vatican Media Live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNHE3mjiiFw https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vatican+news

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Defeating sexual desires Anonymous 11/04/2021 (Thu) 19:15:55 No.1789 [Reply] [Last]
Hello anons. My heart is somewhat heavy as I write this, I do not have anyone that I feel comfortable sharing this with so I am coming here under the cover of anonymity to exchange my thoughts and seek yours on this subject. Given that: Masturbation is a sin Sex outside of marriage is a sin Engaging in prostitution is a sin As a man I have a natural sex drive I would like help and advice on defeating my sexual desires without committing sin. If I abstain from masturbation, I can refrain from engaging in sexuality for around a period of a week with little difficulty. After that initial 1 week period, it starts to encompass my whole life. I have an erection when I wake up every morning, and I get more throughout the day, at least one an hour and more if I have to interact with any girl under 30. I pray for help in keeping the sexual thoughts away, but it feels like I'm fighting a losing battle and I will relapse at some point no matter what. The longest I've been able to abstain from anything sexual was when I was an atheist and I lasted around a year. After a period of a few months, paradoxically my whole life was concerned with sex, I was not having orgasms however the only thing I had on my mind every day was "I need to find a girl to have sex with" (which never worked), everything was secondary to that. It culminated with me getting cock-teased by a girl I was exchanging with for around a week, getting fed up when I realized I was just getting taken along for a ride then seeking the services of a prostitute, which broke my abstinence and made me lose my virginity, if that concept even exists for a man. I regret the choices I made. After this chapter in my life, I concluded that the healthiest thing to do was to masturbate once a month to get it out of my system and to be able to live my life without being entranced by sex all the time. Eventually I relapsed and was engaging with porn at least 10 times a week, until I found the faith which helped knock it back down to something more reasonable like 2-4 times a month. However, sin is sin and I would like to be fully rid of it. I know that the simplest answer is to marry a girl, whoever that does not appear to be possible for me (it appears that my fate is to be an incel which I've come to terms with), so it seems like I've come to an impasse. I can't masturbate without committing sin, and I don't have a way to relieve myself of those sexual desires legitimately. However, if I don't relieve myself of it, it quickly starts to take over my life (I had begun to call the action of masturbation "satiating the beast" in my head). I don't know what to do. I remember seeing this anon who castrated himself on old 8chan years ago and thought he had lost his mind then, though now every day I start to understand more and more why he wanted to be rid of his sexual desires. Additional question: Why did God give me (and other men) such a strong sex drive and at the same time put me and a lot of other men (40% of men under 30 reported no sex in the past year in a study around 2018 I believe and that was before the corona lockdowns which must have made that number shoot up even more) in an era where it is extremely difficult to rid yourself of this desire without committing sin?
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>>22607 >I'm attentive to her needs My friend, that is the problem. You are pleasure-oriented for your wife. She sounds egoistical, mentally damaged and she has not attraction towards you. Denying her body to you is a grave sin and constitutes marriage-fraud. She has no reason to deny her body just because she does not feel like it. An incel has it better than you right now. Women are fundamentally servile to and want to please men all the time. If you gave too many occasions for her to feel the opposite it is natural she will despise you and deny sex. The time of reperation will be long and you need to realize you are too soft with your wife.
>>22607 >she doesn't have a libido, and the sexual act itself is unpleasant and somewhat painful same old history, sorry brother but she does have a libido, but you arent attractived to her anymore
>>22607 rekindle the love. you know what i mean.
Matthew 22:37-39 ''37 Jesus said to him: Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind. 38 This is the greatest and the first commandment. 39 And the second is like to this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.'' Romans 13:9 9 For Thou shalt not commit adultery: Thou shalt not kill: Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness: Thou shalt not covet: and if there be any other commandment, it is comprised in this word, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Clearly, God and Church teaches us, in scripture since the Law of Moses, that it is a mortal sin to harm someone else. If you love God you keep the first three commandments, and if you believe in the Lord you keep the 7 to not harm your neighbor. It's why I have an issue and reject the false gospel of Aquinas; he changes this teaching and made a mortal sin out of the slightest temptation. You can mortally sin, according to Aquinas, with nothing more than an impure thought. You are damned to hell, according to Aquinas, for sins that harms no one. Aquinas said that thoughts of sex are a sin against your own body and thus a sin against the Church, and thus you are damned. This is not what Pope Saint Pius X taught in his catechism, and if a Pope says, then no "saint" or church father can change it. You have to go by the teachings of the True Popes™. And the law of Moses says that Masturbation - the spilling of your seed, is not a mortal sin. You didn't get stoned for it. You did your penance and were unclean until evening i.e. the rest of the day. It doesn't break the bond you have with God as adultery might.
>>16268 Yeah I'm right here B) Seriously, though, absolutely. I think most men (especially those who aren't extremely online) are like that underneath, but there's a lot of pressure on people who want to be "normal" to (for example) support prostitution or pornography as acceptable even if they don't partake in it themselves. Obviously there are also a lot of coomers who genuinely do like those things. If you're looking for one specifically though, they probably hang around churches.

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Conflicted thoughts, what should I do? Anonymous 12/31/2022 (Sat) 18:08:37 ID: 5a0aa4 No.22774 [Reply]
Hello Anon, since last Christmas I have not really been at peace with myself. I went to the Christmas mass of my Protestant church and I noticed that cake was sold in the church. Isn't it disgusting to see a temple of God degenerate into a financial hub? I searched the Bible for an answer and kept coming across the passage where Jesus beat the merchants out of the temple with a whip. Anon, I'm at a loss. They always say I should take Jesus as an example; but should I go so far as to buy a whip?
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>>22790 >Do you have an orthodox church nearby? No, but many Russians who brought eastern-Baptism with them. I thought of visiting them from time to time. Know some nice people there. >>22778 >Was it a bake sale to help the poor? I think so, but I doubt a Church is the optimal ground to sale things. After all it should be considered to be holy, right? I think it is one more step towards desecration of sacred places. >>22791 That's nice to know, but as I said I worry of the desecration of the Church as a holy building and that would end in people losing their faith obviously.
>>22774 A church isn't a temple the only temple for Christians is the resurrection body of Jesus Christ. There are no references to a dedicated church building in the New Testament. Ekklesia which is translated as church in English meant a gathering or assembly in ancient Greek. A church is a body of believers. God isn't limited to the confines of houses made by human hands all creation was made for His glory.
>>22823 How dare they desecrate the oh so holy office building!
>>22831 Hallelujah! Pray be to our most merciful and holy God!
>>22791 this was satire i wrote it this post will be deleted

/hfg/ - Husbands and Fathers General #1 Anonymous 12/26/2022 (Mon) 19:47:26 ID: 38bc07 No.22622 [Reply]
Hello. I'm wanting to spearhead a new general thread with the specific focus of being a place where Christian fathers and husbands can convene and discuss different related topics. I've read a lot of self help books and content for the past 15 years, and been to therapy for some years (I don't go currently and haven't for more than a decade). I've found it challenging to find practical, actionable advice out there. Oftentimes when seeking advice through a Christian lens, it's just secular stuff with a Christian flavor. Of course, I reference The Bible. I'm looking for stuff that offers a deeper perspective. Presently I'm experiencing issues with a potential romantic partner where she is combative for the sake of being combative. Though she did find Christianity via some friends when younger, it was non denominational, charismatic, faith healing, etc. She lives in a very liberal town, in a liberal state. Most of the people she interacts with regularly and via her job are ultra liberal, LGBTQ, vaxxed, though she isn't. Still there is a strong and clear feminist vein running through her thought processes. I've considered the reality that, because my slow conversion to Christianity is young, and that I often sin, and have only recently truly committed, that she doesn't want to hear it from me. I've also considered just walking away, but we have a strong though confused bond. By this I mean that I took her virginity and am the only living person she's laid with, we were both fornicators and so it was a connection that was born of sin. How do you guys deal with trying to interact with your wife in a very secular world, that encourages disobedience? Has anyone here witnessed a gradual change in their wife or in a girlfriend from being very worldly or insidiously feminist, to being a submissive and demure partner?
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>>22707 Roman Catholicism: "You are doomed to Eternal Damnation unless your wife and daughter repent for their unbelief." Holy Scripture: Deuteronomy 24:16 “Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor shall children be put to death for their fathers; a person shall be put to death for his own sin." Ezekiel 18:20 "The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself."
"considered just walking away" Well you can't do that. It is sinful for a Christian to end a marriage unless the woman is an unbeliever and leaves or if she commits adultery then you can divorce her keeping in mind that we commit adultery against God all the time but he doesn't divorce us as long as we repent. Women are raised alongside men for 18+ years. There is according to society no such thing as gender roles. Women are totally destroyed by time they are of age. They are trained to be men, they are trained by every facet of life to be independent and if anything that men/husbands are dumb and stupid and should be mocked and have equal or in some cases less authority. At what point in all the worthless years spent in government indoctrination centres do women learn to be housewives, they used to have them but in most all cases they've removed such courses and options. Cooking and sewing and cleaning and baby-care and interior design is oppressive. Submitting and serving is gay, it's slavery, slay queen and strong independent woman who don't need no man are not memes they are the reality we live in. Likewise the reason Paul gives marriage advice is because clearly marriages weren't always what they should be even in his time. Submitting to your husband is not easy but does solve all issues assuming the husband is submitting to the Lord. Jesus is in the Father's hand, you're in Jesus' hand and your wife is in your hand. You need to dig in and say "this is how things ought to be and I have the Bible to support me." Even an unbelieving woman overtime will submit to this yes I have seen it. Know this and make it clear: Everything is your fault. If your wife is disobedient it is your fault. And make sure she knows it is your fault. Anything wrong with your wife is your fault. If your dog bites someone I don't blame the dog I blame the owner. You took this dog in you raised it and you don't have a leash for it because he doesn't like leashes well now he has bitten me what do you expect. You're not a Calvinist are you? Therefore you believe every person can obtain salvation and by extension I would say everyone can be a great Christian and any two people on this planet can get married and make it work perfectly. It's not about finding the "right person" that's modern "dating" "relationship advice" nonsense. You purchase your wife just as Jesus purchases us at a cost. You should expect much work to do when you purchase your wife along with the rewards. It's very frustrating that women don't submit. To get over this frustration first of all acknowledge we don't fully submit to God, your wife has been and continues to be brainwashed by a satanic society at every corner and also it is your fault if you haven't fixed her. Treat your wife as you want the Lord to treat you. I want the lord to be blunt and to chasten me. If you're in a relationship where "punishing your wife" is not even on the table then how can you say you're even married? If God can't punish me and if I get offended at the very idea then I have no relationship with him at all. And wives must submit to their husbands as unto the Lord in all things. But instead what we get are weak PUSSY (yes I said it) husbands who literally allow their wives to insult them in public constantly and indeed that's exactly what a wife will do when she has no authority over her, she'll bark like a dog all day and again: your fault. Does she belong to you or not? With all these things, if you believe in Biblical marriage you need to be telling your wife that constantly. There is no "oh I hope it happens." This is about a devotion to God. If you have a poor marraige you're going to have to answer for it on judgement day, it would be better for you to push biblical marraige and for her to leave you than for you to live a non-biblical marraige. In either case you cannot leave, so make it clear what you want and don't give her attention otherwise, give her love as is commanded but if she is fully going to reject true marraige then basically give her the hint that it's either that or nothing more from you. In a two way relationship someone needs to have veto power. If both the wife and husband have equal authority then you're going to fight and eventually pretty much every time it'll break apart eventually. It's logical someone has top authority and the Bible says you have all the authority but also have commandments and duties to fulfil to your wife since you also belong to her. Explain to your wife why she has to submit, why she can't "jokingly" insult you why she should encourage you and that God created woman to be the helper to man. Women are not independent. Submission is what every true christian husband complains about. And often women make it clear their issue is their husband isn't dominate to them though thanks to society are embarrassed to even consider it as that. There are some practical things you can do and things you can say, make sure you are always taking the lead and giving your wife love and for the love of the Lord husbands stop treating your wife as equal in marraige if you don't want that. Treat her almost like a child, she can't solve her issues, you have to do everything, you're taller than her for a reason: because you need to talk down to her as well as be the bigger man the better man and accept responsibility for all of her. I guarantee you can make your feminist wife wear a bonnet in public. Make sure you are in submission to God first (or else how do you expect her to submit to you) and blameless and loving and not bitter to her. Jesus says you can't cancel the marraige which means he's going to fix it if you let him. Be very Christ-like around her, so important.
>>22758 Well, my sin was not raising my children to be Catholic. But I wasn't raised catholic myself. By the time of my first communion, I had already tried to get my 13 year old daughter to go to catechism with me but ... well, Mom got to her first and convinced her that the Catholic Church hated her and that she was a lesbian. And this new father is a sede, and says the father who gave me communion is a fraud and I have to start all over. But he's so deep in the errors of Aquinas and puts Mary above Jesus the Christ... I'm not going to confess every thought of temptation and claim I'm repentant of them; they're temptations, NOT SINS. A sin is where you act to harm someone. I'm... giving up. The promised Church doesn't exist.
>>22760 >I'm... giving up. The promised Church doesn't exist. There's wheat and tares in every congregation. What do you think that parable was about? You probably won't find a congregation with 100% saved attendees. And with how many denominations are out there, do they all agree on every tiny point of doctrine? Does that mean they're not Christians? Did Peter and Paul ever have a disagreement on minor matters? There are millions around the world who worship Christ and trust in him alone for their salvation. Concluding "there is no ecclesia" is failing to see the forest for the trees. Change your definition of "church", instead of calling Christ a liar.
>>22760 You are only responsible for for your own sin, period. You are not responsible for what your wife and daughter do. Either Holy Scripture, the infallible Word of God, is correct, or the false traditions and Pharisaical legalisms of men are. Which is it?

Is this world hell? Anonymous 12/20/2022 (Tue) 14:17:38 ID: 6801b5 No.22476 [Reply]
I can't help but notice that this world is full of very wicked people. Governments are wicked. Wars are wicked and people regard wars like sports teams - hurray for our side!! Businesses are wicked. Religions are corrupted and wicked. Criminals are wicked, but so are the police who would taze an old man in his home, drag him outside his door, and throw a weapon on him. But they know he's innocent! The Synagogue of Satan owns everything; banks, porn, advocates sodomy, and they're wicked evil. Is this hell?
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>>22498 Pagan Japanese idols are part of the world that doesn't recognize Jesus Christ as the Son of God the Father. Shinto is false. Buddhism is false.
>>22476 >Is this hell? I used to wonder this but now my conviction is this: Satan opposed God so was ejected from heaven and cast down into the world. The followers of satan were ejected and cast down with him. We were his followers. Following satan is the original sin. We were deceived by him into craving forbidden knowledge and thereby attempting to set him above God. Satan rules this world and uses it to attack those who refuse to bow before him. Satan needs to keep his followers in check as they are his power against God. God wants all to come back to Him. He gave us this life both as a trial and as a chance of redemption. Satan accuses all our sins before God as 'proof' that he is winning yet he lies and distorts the truth of our sin, he is the father of lies. When Jesus came he experienced what man experiences and so exposed the lies of satan, therefore Jesus can intercede for us in mercy and truth. God is patient and will not destroy the world until His purpose is fulfilled. That purpose is to find every soul who repents of original sin and seeks redemption through Jesus Christ.
>>22633 Immaculately based
>>22635 As the Eastern Church says, if the Mother of Jesus Christ was Immaculate, then Christ was not true man and the sacrifice of the Lamb of God was not a proper sacrifice to save us. Mary worship didn't start as an accepted heresy until the late 19th century.
I watched one too many police videos on YouTube. One too many being the cop who arrested the Nurse who refused to break the law, and the wicked cops that stood up for his assault and battery and then fooled the people by firing and quietly rehiring him. People are wicked. It is true that no one deserves heaven but this will try the souls of all who are faithful. pray for the people of Salt Lake to turn from their evil ways.

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Jesusmas Anonymous 12/25/2022 (Sun) 23:22:02 ID: aa3664 No.22601 [Reply]
To distance ourselves from the Godless capitalistic and consumerism poisoned Christmas we, the christians, have made the term Jesusmas about the holy birth of Jesus Christ day without heretical and Godless ideals. Also only for Christians, sorry japs that eat KFC on a Christmas without Jesus.
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>>22728 God will destroy you.
>>22728 >one twisted verse The words of the Lord in the divinely inspired Bible are not "Twisted". We may not understand, but they Lord did not deceive us. Nor did I "twist" it. It was a cut and paste from Bible Gateway.
>>22730 >>22732 >>22733 bots fuck off
>>22730 >>22730 >God will destroy you Very few go to heaven. >>22732 >You dismiss God, His laws and commandments, and His Word. All you do is posturing and clever word games and attack people who stand for God. I am sickened by you. The sick need God to minister to them. Yes, many people have fallen to the AntiChrist's twisting of the word of God. This board is an opportunity to do that. I want to point out every word of the Gospel is true, even if we don't understand it. But denying the plain words of Jesus Christ is of the AntiChrist. I hope to find someone who will give a clue to me where the promised Church is, as things look pretty grim. >>22738 >bots fuck off Because of the Overboard, I suspect, we get this. That's how bad it really is.
>>22747 The porn on the overboard is worse. This is not a christian website. Do not believe their LIES.

Saw a scripture quote on /christian/ Anonymous 12/24/2022 (Sat) 19:58:42 ID: d38264 No.22577 [Reply]
And I'm unable to find it the quote and don't know how to search to board to find the post. It was not in the Gospels, and the context was if the church was gone it was enough to be baptized to be saved if one had faith in the Lord and kept the whole word. I'm not sure if I let cognitive bias lead me astray, or if I read it correctly, and I want to research it more. Anyone know of scripture that says that, in the absence of the Church, and towards the end times that it is sufficient to be baptized? Maybe the Book of the Apocalypse?
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>>22725 Catholicism didn't exist until 321 ad and it was always pagan and polytheistic. Stupid GTP
>>22727 gpt*
It's a spam bot, don't reply to it.
>>22731 Why does this board's jannies/mods/owner do anything about it? These bots are making the same posts, literally copy/pasting other anon's posts half the time. Is this just another controlled kiked website or something?
>>22740 >thinks Christians are bots. Feel free to show how much smarter you are than us bots.

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Matthew 6:24 Anonymous 12/22/2022 (Thu) 18:27:59 ID: 072791 No.22511 [Reply]
How do reconcile the need for money to live with your spirituality? It's difficult to find a way to earn money beyond a subsistence that constitutes a wholly moral act. For me, I feel its a significant roadblock to achieving a truly whole relationship with Christ. Previous roadblocks I faced were being a fornicator, as well as being estranged from my family and therefore not honoring them. I spend a lot of time trying to reconcile Matthew 6:24 with a modern lifestyle but don't have a way yet that feels legitimate to me. I've entertained alternate understandings of Matthew 6:24 but I think it's pretty clear.
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>>22555 >A wealthy man who is generous is in better spiritual condition than a miserly poor man. If the wealthy man threw in everything he was as poor as the widow in Mark 12, you would be right. The Widow’s Offering Mark 12:41-44 41 And Jesus sitting over against the treasury, beheld how the people cast money into the treasury, and many that were rich cast in much. 42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she cast in two mites, which make a farthing. 43 And calling his disciples together, he saith to them: Amen I say to you, this poor widow hath cast in more than all they who have cast into the treasury. 44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want cast in all she had, even her whole living.
>>22568 The problem is you're force fitting your religion to your politics instead of your politics to your religion. You have made an idol and placed it over God. If you want to be a Christian communist then go ahead I won't stop you but it doesn't make your views correct. There's a reason why the majority of communists reject religion and specifically Christianity. You are right about this autistic idea of a hive mind that most people have. Humans are nuanced.
>>22628 /thread God bless you Anon.
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>>22511 You should've kept reading on. >25. Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? >26. Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? >27. Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? >28. And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: >29. And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. >30. Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? And in the next chapter (Matthew 7) >8. For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. >9. Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? >10. Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? >11. If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

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I need to up my donations to the poor. Wish there was a church so I could donate to a seminary. Most of the seminaries teach heresy and blasphemy, tho. I was donating to seminaries... three different ones. One became an anathema. Two of them are heretical but I could tolerate that; pointless to give to the formation of priests that won't give the sacraments because of their heretical belief in a false gospel, tho. Not like I'm rich.

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