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Does prayer work? Anonymous 09/12/2021 (Sun) 06:59:10 No.1480 [Reply]
I don't suppose there is any proof that prayers works, like prove that God does answer prayer? I guess that's kind of unprovable. If only there was a study done about how many people actually receive answers to their prayers. Here is some scientific proof that prayer promotes good health and longer life. https://www.newsmax.com/health/headline/prayer-health-faith-medicine/2015/03/31/id/635623/
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>>2290 I've met a couple of former edgy and young atheists who "challenged" with a prayer and were answered so they had to take it back and eventually became christians, one much quicker than the other. It's rare as far as i know but they also don't brag about it so it has happened, both aren't the laidback kind of guys tho, they go at your tits to become one of them as their denomination is cult-tier, they are christian rather than catholic but more liberal yet also more strict regarding certain things; for example one didn't like those who drink alcohol but got angry went told Jesus drank and converted water into wine. True, it was a request from His own mother but He also drank sometimes, always in moderation i suppose which is the point, never make the drink dominate you.
>>2290 In my case, I hated Christianity and said many horrible things against Jesus for a long time, but gradually my heart softened towards Christianity, and I was unable to find alternative explanations for many things such as the crucifixion. I had been arguing with a Christian friend as well, and he was gradually setting me aright. God was gradually leading me into the truth even after all of the horrible things that I had spewed against Him online. Even today I am not done repenting of these things, and I probably will never repent enough for them. But I can be thankful that He led me from falsehood into truth. I am probably not a typical case though—though I had many misconceptions, I was always willing to follow the evidence and truth where it led regardless.
>>2292 I heard a story once of some educated young woman offering up a prayer to Zeus. She was answered with what amounted to, "Thank you, but I'm not the man in charge." From then on, she went for Orthodox Christianity. This was in the modern day. >>2289 It was like I had the bones of religion in me, but had no idea what to do with them. Catholic school didn't actually help very much, as the curriculum seemed to downplay modern-day Saints even while using their names, and their catechesis was barely there. >>2288 (dubsman) I still ask for his intercession at that same Icon every Sunday. Though there is another Saint I believe I am closer to for the amount of little things which have happened around invoking his name even in thought: Martyr Tryphon of Lampsacus. Or, as I like to call him, the Finder Saint.
>>2295 >I heard a story once of some educated young woman offering up a prayer to Zeus. She was answered with what amounted to, "Thank you, but I'm not the man in charge." It sounds like Zeus has reformed himself a bit.
>>2299 Kinda funny what losing the entirety of Greece will do to you. Anyone here make use of the Jesus Prayer? That works well for clearing the mind at length.

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Combining Asceticism with Military Might Anonymous 12/30/2021 (Thu) 23:11:10 No.2311 [Reply]
thus! I have read a lot(a lot,really) on the desert fathers and irish monastics, the most notorious ascetics of catholicism. I have became aware of their penances/Ascetic activities regarding sleep,bodily positions,diet, entertainment, silence etc. this is not-to say inner spirituality isnt important. now... AS someone who wants to become a martial fighter/soldier/weight lifter:How can I reconcile seemingly anti-testosterone activities(sleeping less than 6 hours), a protein-less diet such as bread ,a spirit of poverty(no supplements),etc, with my goal of military might? >this is serious,mods please dont delete. im a male in this late 20's, already have one black belt, and lift what I can in lockdown
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>>2327 the clitoris is an underdeveloped dick. learn some biology,mr arab.
>>2327 >>2328 >>2326 /christian/ - The big brain board >david isis style No, that was a fairly common execution style during the past. And that's the nicer type too. In the past, people were a lot more merciless and cruel. Look at what happened to Greek cities when Romans took over for example. Or Persian cities when Alexander the Great took over them.
>>2333 > In the past, people were a lot more merciless and cruel theres nothing new under the sun, humanity has made not much progress, we're still a bunch of dicks
>>2328 That's repulsive.
>>2340 yet it's true. learn about the development of the human fetus.

Hypostases Anonymous 12/29/2021 (Wed) 20:43:05 No.2271 [Reply]
Orthobros, was personae an inaccurate translation into Latin (and subsequently all Western European languages) of the concept of hypostases?
I don't think it's necessarily a bad translation. Most of the Orthodox books I have don't seem to mind using the term 'person' for the three hypostases of the Trinity. From what I read in Vladimir Lossky's book on the mystical theology of the Eastern Church though, was that the Latin term 'persona' (and its Greek equivalent 'πρόσωπον') originally had primary meanings of 'character', 'mask' or 'visage', and this may have led to a tendency for those in the West to think the Father, Son and Holy Spirit were three modalities of a single substance, which is of course the heresy of Sabellianism. In time though, these misunderstandings of the various terms were mostly dispelled, it seems. The technical terms 'hypostasis' and 'ousia' are the clearest ones, theologically speaking.
>>2272 When we begin to question the terminology the Church Fathers elected to use to translate a certain concept, we indirectly start questioning the Fathers themselves, which is a path best not taken. Many of the Fathers were polyglots, and even the Easternmost of those Fathers has likely forgotten more Latin than any of us will ever learn. To that end, I think it's best not to worry too hard about whether the men guided directly by the Holy Spirit knew what they were doing, and accept their decisions at face value.
>>2284 The main reason I brought it up in OP was not in relation to the church fathers per se, but that our development of language has been such that when we speak of God in three persons, the common understanding of personhood is so removed from the theological one and you get the inane atheistic or non-believing arguments about how God being three persons yet one makes no sense, or that Christians worship a pagan trinity of three gods that the Romans introduced and that (insert cult here) is the true church. This confusion is not present in the original term of hypostases, it only derived from the translation into Latin of personae and then into the common languages of Europe as various forms of person. While it may well have been the best word available in Latin, it certainly seems to have an ambiguity not present in Greek; it is excellent that in our current circumstance we have such advance in communications, that we are able to all the more precisely exposit the particulars of the faith. My earnest hope is that forums such as these may be the seed by which, one day, the whole body of Christ should again stand in concord as did the Great Church.
>>2287 Man was made in the image of God. We have three sense of being, Mind, flesh and spirit. This is where the trinity comes from. Jesus is the flesh and God the father and the holy spirit are the other two.

Doc thread Anonymous 10/04/2021 (Mon) 21:07:11 No.1635 [Reply]
Doc thread, post any documentaries you've seen relating to Christianity or it's enemies. Here is the frist Doc, Altyian Childs reveals world secret religion, freemason is satanism. https://www.bitchute.com/video/uNpvPBYLagSN/
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How about we talk about Christ's friends instead? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dKXOG5HS1iM
Thought I'd post some info here too. freemasons are sick people
>>2263 Hmmm This board doesn't show an update if a new post gets made in the browser tab. Why is the max file size only 20mb? I wanted to upload a video but it's double the size limit from this board

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Anonymous 11/22/2021 (Mon) 20:17:22 No.1950 [Reply]
Should we denounced the old testament, aka evil kike bible?
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>>2134 That's the funny thing: the Israelites of the OT, especially after they lost the Ark of the Covenant that one time, routinely proved to everyone around them that God picked them so that every great set of people (and sometimes just their Prophets) who emerged from them would be considered remarkable in their rarity. A stiff-necked people indeed.
>>2142 >>2142 Kek, that’s true. I have often said that God chose the Israelites on one hand because out of all the people on Earth they needed it the most, and for a similar reason to what you have said, i.e. to make the righteous among them stand out all the more. Many modern Jews would be quick to say that they are blessed for having been granted the law while the gentiles have not, but we can easily recognize that: >...the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine (1 Timothy 2:9-10) And that the only reason God did not destroy these people was to not besmirch His name among the gentiles (Ezekiel 20:8-9). They have little to boast about in being ‘Chosen’: >I also gave them over to statutes that were not good and ordinances by which they could not live. (Ezekiel 20:25). I imagine they will persist to the end in their rebellion and stubornness. They truly earn the name of ‘Israel’ in their endless struggle against God.
>>2145 Couldn't have put it better. >John Chrysostom Ah yes. I had forgotten that his mighty phogos extended beyond rich women to heretics as well. Remind me, was it a resurgence of rabbinicals or a resurgence of Judaizing heretics that he had to deal with?
>>2153 It was the perennial resurgence of Judaizers. Out of all heresies, it is this one that just does not seem to die. https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/index.htm#Chrysostom_Against_the_Jews
>>2163 It even made it to the modern day, somehow. Thanks for the link, anon.

Let's do something for /christmas/ Anonymous 12/15/2021 (Wed) 18:31:12 No.2036 [Reply]
Christanons, if you aren't aware of the Christmas festival happening on the webring right now currently, if you have time, you should consider checking it out and contributing so we can spread love, faith, and goodwill to everyone and we can all have an incredible time. Feel free to check out the rules and board here: >>>/christmas/1 My question to you is: what should we do for Christmas? I know that we're an extremely small community here, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask. Most boards are throwing streams, and there'll be a radio broadcast going on that everyone that has something like VLC or MPV can tune into. Most of the events are starting on the 18th and from everyday til the 24th, at roughly 7-8PM EST the events happen. Should we do something in the mornings, so we don't conflict with other schedules? Should we bother setting up an embassy? As it is, it appears we've been officially invited by /yuri/ >>2033 to watch some war movies that will be taking place, so why not also plan something in return that anyone can also enjoy? I think I might be attending the stream btw, especially since it's a good time to just bask in good neighborliness with anyone regardless of their beliefs. Thoughts?
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>>2130 thank you /co/
Nice job not losing your tempers over in /christmas/.
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>>2140 What was there to get angry about, anon? T'was a wonderful time.
>>2165 Oh, I worried over whether this silly take or that would result in unsightly and ungodly shouting matches, but it turns out I worried for nothing.
>>2138 >board owner N-nani?!

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Having Children Anonymous 06/07/2021 (Mon) 16:58:49 No.1029 [Reply]
There is no practical difference between a white homosexual atheist marxist and white, supposedly right-wing "white-nationalist" imageboard browser, if they both end up not having children. In fact, the biggest damage done to Europeans spiritually and culturally is the decline in having large families and lots of children. Let's put aside the differences between Catholics, protties, and orthodox for now and discuss why people aren't having children, and how to change it. Also, how to change your mentality from the "life should be about fun" mindset to a more traditional mindset of raising and providing and creating something genuinely meaningful. Personally I think the loss a connection to god and the sense of something to work towards and to create for the future, for your children and not just for your momentary pleasures, is a big reason why people just don't have children. Even so-callled "right"-wing people on the internet will claim to be anti-natalist or to not want kids for one reason or another. Nothing could possibly be more damaging to faith and to the souls of people on earth than to not have children and pass down your beliefs.
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>>1031 It is the middle class foregoing having children. There was a graph of a survey, which I unfortunately don't have right now, by household income that was a U shape. Poor people are having many children (because things can't get worse or the government will pick up the slack) and so are the wealthy. The people for whom children would be the most significant decrease in standard of living are not: high prole/low middle class skilled laborers. Almost every religion holds celibacy in high regard, Christianity no exception, but at the end of the day you need laymen to feed the NEET monks and mystics.
>>1532 Jesus is the son of God, not God. Read the Bible again.
>>1990 Where does the Bible state this?
>>2069 The Son of God is God.
>>1201 What part of >To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single, as I am. is so hard for you?

Anonymous 06/19/2021 (Sat) 06:39:04 No.1094 [Reply]
Can an individual be saved from within a mass though his church be accursed?
>>1094 If a man could be saved without ever reading, seeing, or even knowing a Bible, then surely. Ages ago, this was common, if not standard. How many Chinese in the year 250 do you think read or even knew of the Bible? Yet, because the church is Universal, and because God rules all things, someone could never even hear the word "Christ" and still come to understand the proper path to follow. Surely, the time before Christ did not simply deny all men into Heaven.
>>1949 >Yet, because the church is Universal, and because God rules all things, someone could never even hear the word "Christ" and still come to understand the proper path to follow. While this is a heartening and intuitive thought brother, it seems to me that it trivializes Christ's necessity to the world.
>>1949 Wrong. John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.
>>1996 [Same person] Christ was necessary to spread the word in its proper form, but certainly, Adam's descendants were not simply all denied Heaven. Christ was the way, and a beacon of the way, but one could follow Christ without seeing him. Before his time, this could only have been the case. God knows that the word of Christ would not have been able to reach everyone, and certainly wouldn't allow a truly pure soul to go to waste, simply because he was born at the wrong time. >>2071 Yes, but understand that this passage was directed toward those who were hearing and had access to Jesus. "But by Me" doesn't mean personally, but spiritually. All true Christians are "by Christ," or at least, strive to be. To be "by Him" does not require Christ to physically be next to you, confirming or denying your every action. In spirit, yes, always, and I believe that Christ was with many of those outside of the Levant. After all: “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.” - NIV John 18:36
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>>1949 >>2071 >>2106 >But lest some should, without reason, and for the perversion of what we teach, maintain that we say that Christ was born one hundred and fifty years ago under Cyrenius, and subsequently, in the time of Pontius Pilate, taught what we say He taught; and should cry out against us as though all men who were born before Him were irresponsible — let us anticipate and solve the difficulty. We have been taught that Christ is the first-born of God, and we have declared above that He is the Word of whom every race of men were partakers; and those who lived reasonably are Christians, even though they have been thought atheists; as, among the Greeks, Socrates and Heraclitus, and men like them; and among the barbarians, Abraham, and Ananias, and Azarias, and Misael, and Elias, and many others whose actions and names we now decline to recount, because we know it would be tedious. So that even they who lived before Christ, and lived without reason, were wicked and hostile to Christ, and slew those who lived reasonably. But who, through the power of the Word, according to the will of God the Father and Lord of all, He was born of a virgin as a man, and was named Jesus, and was crucified, and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, an intelligent man will be able to comprehend from what has been already so largely said. And we, since the proof of this subject is less needful now, will pass for the present to the proof of those things which are urgent. https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0126.htm

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Anonymous 12/16/2021 (Thu) 22:44:44 No.2041 [Reply]
Yeshua was a Mediterranean jew
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>>2102 Stop posting that letter from Pontius Pilate, it’s fake
>>2101 >Ancient Israelis were Greeks though. Can you prove that?
does it matter though?
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>>2041 >>2046 >>2047 >>2050 >>2067 David was called ruddy 1 Kings(septuagint/LXX) 16:12 "And he sent and fetched him: and he was ruddy, with beauty of eyes, and very goodly to behold. And the Lord said to Samuel, Arise, and anoint David, for he is good." 1 Samuel(King james version) 16:12 "And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he." And if you are wondering what ruddy looks like, This is the first result I got from searching on duckduckgo.
>>2113 Ultimately no, only /pol/ tourists care.

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Glorifying God Anonymous 11/11/2021 (Thu) 20:28:51 No.1821 [Reply]
How to use gains to bring glory to God? Most uses seem pretty egotistic.
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>>2010 Because of misguided notions of spirituality that read Christianity from a gnostic dualist angle and assume that God's goal for believers is to cut them off from the world wholesale rather than to be a witness to His glory before it; that the body should be destroyed in favor of the soul rather than that it should be sanctified by the power of the Holy Spirit.
>>2008 >fighting for your patriae always pleases God. Is that supposed to be funny?
>>2010 >Why wouldn't God want you to improve the body he gave you? Because it's a sinful and defect body, and we should improve him to be better temples for his spirit.
>>2066 If its a sinful body why did Christ die to resurrect it on the final day?
>>1821 It all depends on your intention. Christians aren't gnostics. The created world is fallen, but it is not evil. Therefore the body is not evil either. To be healthy and strong is something that has no downsides. We are an integral unity of body, spirit and soul. Glorify God in all of your actions, and dedicate all things to Him. This is ceaseless prayer.

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