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Gods light = amazing praise the lord Anonymous 01/24/2022 (Mon) 20:24:33 No.3217 [Reply]
I love and have faith I the one true God who came into this world to save sinners among whome I am first. Butcher the servants of the antichrist and all their children!!!!

>>3114 This has a lot of meme potential. Can you make more edits like that? Like Asian, Slav, Arab, etc?
>>3167 They're not mine originally but I can try. Can't be that hard.
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>>3167 >>3185 I hope they're good.

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Anonymous 01/24/2022 (Mon) 02:00:02 No.3170 [Reply]
For the high church types here: does the practice of consecrating a church with the namesake of one of the saints or another when it has no direct connection to nor any relics in connection to said saint merit disapproval? In 787, it was decreed: >Let anyone, then, that consecrates a temple without holy relics be deposed from office, on the ground that he has transgressed ecclesiastical traditions. (c. XCI of Carthage.) >As for any prelate that consecrates a temple hereafter without holy relics of martyrs, let him be deposed from office as a transgressor of ecclesiastical traditions. >Concord. >Canon XCI of Carthage decrees that those sacrificial altars in which there is treasured no body or relics of martyrs are to be wrecked or disapproved. http://www.intratext.com/IXT/ENG0835/_P52.HTM The full-text of the canon of the Council of Carthage was as follows: >Of false Memories of Martyrs >Item, it seemed good that the altars which have been set up here and there, in fields and by the wayside as Memories of Martyrs, in which no body nor relics of martyrs can be proved to have been laid up, should be overturned by the bishops who rule over such places, if such a thing can be done. But should this be impossible on account of the popular tumult it would arouse, the people should none the less be admonished not to frequent such places, and that those who believe rightly should be held bound by no superstition of the place. And no memory of martyrs should at all be accepted, unless where there is found the body or some relics, on which is declared traditionally and by good authority to have been originally his habitation, or possession, or the scene of his passion. For altars which have been erected anywhere on account of dreams or inane quasi-revelations of certain people, should be in every way disapproved of. https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3816.htm

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>>3170 Do they not even have third of fourth class relics? That just sounds weird to me, considering those can be infinitely produced.
>>3197 Protestant churches, including Anglicans, after the arguments of Luther and Calvin, do not revere relics and therefore do not have them in consecrations: >Luther clearly thought all relics were ridiculous nonsense and evidences of a very degraded sense of spiriituality. >“It is claimed that the head of St. John the Baptist is in Rome, although all histories show that the Saracens opened John’s grave and burned everything to powder. Yet the pope is not ashamed of his lies. So with reference to other relics like the nails and the wood of the cross—they are the greatest lies.” (Martin Luther's Works, Vol 54.131) >Furthermore, at the time of Luther, the superstition surrounding relics seems to have really been highly imaginative that only an unspiritual mind could ever conjure: >“Certain men have impudently boasted that they possess a feather from the holy angel St. Michael. The bishop of Mainz claims to have a flame from the bush of Moses. So in Compostella the banner is exhibited that Christ had in hell, and likewise the crown of thorns, the nails, etc., and also some of Mary’s milk.” (Martin Luther's Works, Vol 54.247)  https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/9533/how-did-luther-view-relics-like-the-preserved-head-of-john-the-baptist >Calvin described relics from 12 cities in Germany, three cities in Spain, 15 cities in Italy, and 30-40 cities in France. He asserted that fake relics had been traded since Augustine's lifetime, and had increased as the world inevitably became more corrupt. Calvin proposed to abandon the veneration of relics, citing God's hiding of Moses' burial place in the Old Testament book of Deuteronomy (34:6). According to Calvin, God hid Moses' body so the Jews would not fall into idolatry (which he equated with the veneration of relics). Calvin listed in detail the falsified Christian relics known to him, which were kept in churches and monasteries. According to him, saints had two, three or more bodies with arms and legs; extra limbs and heads also existed. Calvin did not understand where the relics of the Biblical Magi, the Bethlehem babies, the stones which killed Stephen, the Ark of the Covenant, or Aaron's two rods (instead of one) came from. Objects of worship included Jesus' robe and a towel with which he wiped himself. The relics had several copies, in different places. Others included a piece of fish which Christ ate after the resurrection, Christ's footprint on a stone, and his tears. Cults of hair and the Milk of the Virgin were widespread. The combined quantity of Mary's milk was so great that, according to Calvin, only a cow could produce that much. Other objects of Marian worship were a very large shirt, two combs, a ring, and slippers. Relics associated with the Archangel Michael were a small sword and shield with which the disembodied Michael defeated the disembodied spirit of the Devil. At the end of the treatise, Calvin warned the reader: >"And so completely are they all mixed up and huddled together, that it is impossible to have the bones of any martyr without running the risk of worshipping the bones of some thief or robber, or, it may be, the bones of a dog, or a horse, or an ass. Nor can the Virgin Mary's ring, or comb, or girdle, be venerated without the risk of venerating some part of the dress of a strumpet. Let every one, therefore, who is inclined, guard against this risk. Henceforth no man will be able to excuse himself by pretending ignorance"[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatise_on_Relics Post-Vatican II Catholicism no longer requires, thought it recommends, relics in the consecration of an altar: >But ever since the reforms of Vatican II in the early 1960s, relic veneration has virtually disappeared from the official landscape of Catholicism, particularly in the United States. Relics weren’t actually mentioned during the three-year council, but church leaders did address the way new churches should be designed. By the time Vatican II was over, iconography was out, in favor of a lighter, more airy atmosphere, uncluttered by images and, apparently, relics. If that wasn’t enough, in 1969, the church officially laid to rest the 787 ruling at Nicaea by no longer requiring Catholic churches to posses a holy remnant at their altars. https://slate.com/human-interest/2009/10/it-s-time-to-bring-relics-back-to-the-catholic-church.html So for these churches to be formally consecrated, they either need relics delivered to them or an altar installed (many Protestant churches simply have a table, so "overturning" them isn't as great an ordeal as it seems), unless they operate under some condition of necessity.

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The Unpardonable sin Anonymous 01/23/2022 (Sun) 09:05:12 No.3137 [Reply]
Apparently if you are a Christian, a self professing believer in Christ that is faithful till his death, you can still end up in hell. To fulfill this condition, you must be fully aware that you are about to commit a sinful act, with full knowledge that you shouldnt be doing this, yet you acted against your conscience. Truth be told, most of you have commited this grisl act. My question to you, how do you cope with the impending eternal torment that awaits you? >Hebrews 10 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

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>>3136 >misses the end of Hebrews 10 >Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward. >For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise. >For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. >Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. >But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul. Hebrews 10:35-39
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>>3160 Or just actually pray with the expectation of reality to change. You people overthink god and prayer.
OP is basically trying to demoralize people so they lose faith. Such a silly tactic.
>>3169 It almost worked :(
>>3184 Nah. The response was immediate. :^]

Anonymous 01/05/2022 (Wed) 04:56:53 No.2490 [Reply] [Last]
Well, I don’t really know how should I explain my situation. My life is a mess, I don’t have any friends, or a girlfriend, or someone that really cares about me. Since I was a child I was humiliated and treated badly, I'm a porn addict since I was a child and I discovered that one of my family members is planning to make an OnlyFans account. I see that this world is getting more shitty and degenerate and I feel like our leaders (most probably Jews) are trying to enslave everyone. I don't even trust Christianity because of its Jewish roots (I don't care if someone says that "not all Jews are evil" or "some jews are cool tradcaths!", I don't trust them and I hate them with all my soul, no matter what). Since I was a kid I was bullied for being autistic, so that's probably the reason I have BPD nowadays. I have a lot of traumas that I can't forget, and I get really nervous when I remember some of them. I'm planning to kill myself soon (I'm going for a few days to a place I used to go when I was a kid, so I will just end it all there), I'm tired of everything, I have never been happy in my whole life. All I just wanted is have a nice asian wife (sounds like a joke for some reason, but I liked asian girls since I'm a kid), live in a nice place, have friends and raise children, sounds weird but if I was specific I would liked to live in a place like Japan in the 2000s or 90s, before the Internet and Technology in general became this shitfest, but I guess that's not going to happen. The best case scenario is that I end up as a wageslave for some kike until my diet of shitty soylent food and the EMFs in my city ends up killing me. Every plan I make goes out wrong, it's like I have bad luck or that something wants me to suffer for some reason. I asked God to help me but he doesn't answer. And I don't know if he does exist or he is just some kind of Tulpa. But the thing is that I'm tired of this world.
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>>3146 A man is to be helped, one way or another. That you have possibly suffered more is irrelevant. It grants you no more authority over him than us. A man who lives angry and unfulfilled will die angry and unfulfilled. And you will die, anon. How you choose to do it is entirely your choice. But to impede the help of another soul is mere spite. You may pride yourself on being stone now, but stone merely wears away into rocks and sand.
what the fuck happened to my thread, i just left for a few hours
>>3146 >>3147 >>3148 those are literally female tier arguments "YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SUFFER BECAUSE I SUFFERED MORE!!!!!!!!!!" also, i never told my entire problems, the things i posted in my op thread are just some of the most important in my opinion. >>3134 >Did you end up getting a permit to travel? It's been nearly two weeks now. i didn't check yet
>>3134 >If you live in a part of the world where church hasn't happened yet, I would recommend a sacramental church (Catholic, High Anglican, Orthodox) if there is one available. For many reasons not least of which is you'll have a better experience there I think. Low churches can be very overwhelming for new people. High churches can be overwhelming if anon doesn't know the order of service. Even a traditional Lutheran service which is dead in the middle in terms of liturgical complexity has a particular format to be followed: https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=dPAlusnIgM8 Low churches seem more like social clubs where cheesy contemporary Christian rock music is played between paraphrased readings of the Bible and an improvised sermon that takes up the majority of the time. I don't see consecration in them but perhaps those who participate in their services get greater value out of it. Many churches have put recordings of their services online over the past two years so it would be prudent for anon to view them before reaching out and visiting.
>>3151 Check the catalog?

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Prayer thread Anonymous 01/13/2022 (Thu) 23:55:53 No.2849 [Reply]
Post your prayers here and other anons will pray for you.
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>>2849 I pray for a lot more money coming to me this year And that board spammers perma leave this board
I wish i could add this to the OP, but just because someone doesn't post that they prayed for your request doesn't it wasn't prayed for.
Please pray for my father and my family; my father is threatening to divorce my mother, and I do not know if I could live through my family falling apart.
I want to get out of this house. I want to get away from my family. I feel like a prisoner here. I don't have any friends or other family. I don't know what the right thing to do is.
I just felt like praying a prayer for my fellow Anons. I hope God will watch over you and yours and that you'll have the happiness that you deserve. Amen. In the end we all simply do what we think is right.

The Virgin Mary Anonymous 01/03/2022 (Mon) 02:08:53 No.2355 [Reply]
The Theotokos, Queen of Heaven, and Mother of God. This is the thread for discussing Mariology, miracles, apparitions, and visions of our Lord's Mother.
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>>3058 Almost certainly, but you know what, I'm a fa/tg/uy, so let's have some fun. >>3056 So, you acknowledge the divinity of Jesus. Yet you believe that Mary was a 'random' choice, nevermind on its face that the Almighty governs all Creation, and thus there is no such thing as random chance. You also seem to disregard the Gospels themselves and the Archangel Gabriel himself, seeing as all four begin with the Annunciation of Christ's conception and the statement (in one capacity or another) of Mary's worthiness prior to that moment(which included her extensive noble genealogy in one case). Then there's your use of the term golem, and how that term is specifically applied by Talmudic rabbis to women in general. So what do I win, Judaicus?
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>>3067 >extensive noble genealogy Here's something I've been wondering recently. Was it common for Jews back then to keep extensive family records?
>>3056 >women don't have souls. This is a false teaching. The Bible teaches that woman by herself is not created in the divine image, though. A controversial teaching, but this is what the Word of God teaches us >1 Corinthians 11:7— For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. >Genesis 1:27— So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. We see that man is by himself both image and glory of God, but the woman is merely the glory of man. She lacks the image. The woman is a help-mate for the man, and was created from Adam’s rib. But how do we explain Genesis 1:27? Genesis 1:27 is talking about human nature in the abstract. Paul is treating the woman in 1 Corinthians 11:7 in her quality as a help-meet. She is incomplete without a man in a marital union. Woman by herself is not in the divine image. It is only realized when she is joined as one flesh with her husband.
>>3056 What you perceive as your soul is just your groundless superiority complex. Your reason for attacking women is either homosexuality or being undesirable due poor genetics and socialization.
>>3088 While this is likely true, why that reasoning? He might even be unhinged.

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Anonymous 09/03/2021 (Fri) 12:34:50 No.1358 [Reply] [Last]
Why has the Church chosen to follow the world by supporting age of consent and anti-pedophilia? Biblically no distinction is made between children and adults for the purpose of sexuality, so why do even churches who follow the bible on other things like homosexuality go with the flow on this?
Do not advocate or assist real paedophilia or child abuse
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>>1573 Imagine expecting to be taken seriously when your argument is literally "that's stupid"
>>1574 I accept your concession.
>>1474 >he sinneth not: let them marry. >he sinneth not, if she marry. >So then he that giveth not her in marriage doeth better. I'm confused are they getting married or is he letting her be married? 36. KJV: But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry. Geneva: But if anie man thinke that it is vncomlie for his virgine, if she passe the flowre of her age, & ᵍ nede so require, let him do what he wil, he sinneth not: let them be maried. Tyndale: if any man think that it is uncomely for his virgin if she pass the time of marriage, and if so need require, let him do what he listeth, he sinneth not: let them be coupled in marriage. Douayr: But if any man think that he seemeth dishonoured, with regard to his virgin, for that she is above age, and it must be so: let him do what he will; he sinneth not, if she marry. 38. KJV: So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better. Geneva: So then he that giueth her to mariage, doeth wel, but he that giueth her not to mariage, doeth ᵏ better. Tyndale: So then he that joineth not his virgin in marriage doth well. And he that joineth his virgin in marriage doth better. Douayr: Therefore, both he that giveth his virgin in marriage, doth well; and he that giveth her not, doth better.

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sex is a sin. only soulless golems have sex.
>>3097 A Shaker-Jew. How interesting.

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Thoughts on David Koresh and Branch Davidians? AntichristHaterFortnitePlayer69 01/21/2022 (Fri) 20:58:55 No.3070 [Reply]
I remember watching a Waco documentary about them and it really peaked my interest. Ive never looked too deep into their religious beliefs but the way they were described by the local community painted them as generally good people which reminded me of something Jesus said: 15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit." Matt 7 This made me think that maybe they were on to something (not necessarily that ALL their views were correct) and thats without mentioning how David Koresh literally predicted his death at the hands of "Babylon's Army" what are your thoughts on them? Have any of you ever read into their beliefs?
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>>3070 Even heretics in Catholic Spain were given a fair hearing and trial. What happened to the Branch Davidians was unholy barbarism, plain and simple. A demonstration easy to see with the eyes that one should not put your trust in earthly governments.
>>3071 "Waco: Rules of Engagement" its an old documentary but really good, you should be able to find it on youtube if not i can send you a copy
>>3073 >A demonstration easy to see with the eyes that one should not put your trust in earthly governments. USA is great satan. Why are you surprised that they did that? Trust me, they've done worse.
>>3082 Who said I was surprised? It's simply one of those nasty little incidents that remind you of Americanism's heretical and false nature.

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On polygamy Anonymous 01/09/2022 (Sun) 18:50:03 No.2707 [Reply] [Last]
This might be an interesting topic to talk about, So throughout the bible Polygamy is never outright forbidden by God. In fact most biblical figures seem to have numerous wives. Including David, Gideon, Abraham, Jacob and more. In some cases it was directly what caused them to stray in solomon's case. But God had written that is what exactly what would happen if you took too many wives read Deuteronomy 17:17 for clarification. As such in this case I believe Polygamy unless you go completely overboard like Solomon did.
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>>3010 >and just as you said you have to demonstrate it in your action So you agree with me, good to know.
>>3012 You misunderstand the end and the practice though. Faith comes before works. Salvation is achieved in faith. We are not condemned for our faults by the law, because of Jesus' atonement. The ritual element of the law is no longer required, with the old temple being destroyed and the new temple being raised in the body of Christ. What remains is the ethical element of the law, which Jesus summarized: >"One of them, a lawyer, then asked him a question in order to test him. “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?” Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. The second is likewise, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ Matthew 22:35-39 Christians aren't retreading Judaism. We have a NEW Testament. The command is to fulfill the two goals above: >This is his commandment: that we should believe in the Name of his Son Jesus Christ, and that we should love one another, even as he commanded. 1 John 3:23 And to be a witness to this good news, not to the ritual law, which brings death: >The commandment which was [meant] for life, I found to be for death, because sin, finding an opportunity through the commandment deceived me, and through it, killed me. Romans 7:10-11 The law was to show the rigorous standards that God requires of his followers. We are to hold ourselves to the same level in our ethical conduct, while the rituals are dead because Jesus has made creation complete and redeemed it all in all: >For in him all the fullness was pleased to dwell, and through him to reconcile all things to himself, both earthly and heavenly, having made peace through the blood of his cross. Colossians 1:19-20

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>>3014 >You misunderstand the end and the practice though. Faith comes before works Wrong. It's interconnected remember James 2:26 which I just posted. But also you missed out a part from Matthew 22 which is necessary to understand the bible. Like literally the next verse. Matthew 22:40 "On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." The law follows these two commandments because God himself made the law we are to follow. Remember that Satan technically believes that Jesus is the messiah. But is punished because of his wicked works. James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble." Honestly the entire chapter of James 2 is a massive hit piece against the "only faith is required doctrine." Remember that Jesus, God the father and the holy spirit are one when Jesus says keep my commandments he's talking about the old covenant. 1 John 3:24 "And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us." Also I think it's pretty clear that modern Judaism isn't anything close to the ancient religion of the bible practiced in the past. In fact I think these current Jews are the Synagogue of Satan spoken of in revelation. Please understand that I do believe that Christ is necessary for salvation in fact it's impossible for a non christian to enter heaven. But think about this for a second. Do you know why the day of Christ's return is called Judgment day? Well obviously if it's a Judgment day, He's gonna Judge us according to the Mosaic law. Remember what Christ said though. Focus on the weightier aspects of the mosaic law first and then try following the lesser laws after you've got a strong foundation. And I already explained that sacrifices have been changed due to Christ's sacrifice.
>>3041 Jesus judges but he also forgives. I'm not saying that faith is a get-out-of-jail free card that cheap preachers like to say. The message of James and of Matthew on works is related to missioning. If your salvation isn't demonstrative to the world, your fault is in failing to use what you have been given to gather people to the Kingdom, not in breaching the law itself: >Indeed, the Kingdom is like a man who was leaving for another country. He called his own servants and entrusted his goods to them. To one he gave five talents, to another two, to another one; to each according to his own ability. Then he went on his journey. Immediately, the one who received five talents went off, did business with them and earned another five talents. In the same way, the one who had received two gained another two. But the servant who received one talent went off, dug [a hole] in the ground and hid his lord’s money. After a long time, the lord of those servants returned and settled accounts with them. >The one who had received the five talents came forward and brought another five talents, saying: ‘Lord, you delivered to me five talents. Behold, I have gained another five!’ The lord said to the servant, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful over a few things, I will set you over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord!’ >The one who had received the two talents also came forward and said, ‘Lord, you entrusted me with two talents. Behold, I have gained another two talents!’ The lord said to this servant, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful over a few things, I will set you over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord!’ >The one who had received one talent now came forward and said, ‘Lord, I knew you that you are a hard man, reaping where you did not sow, and gathering where you did not scatter. I was afraid! I went away and hid your talent in the earth. Behold, you have what is yours!’ But his lord answered, ‘You wicked and lazy servant! You understood that I reap where I did not sow, and that I gather where I did not scatter. And so, you should have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming, I would have received it back with interest. Therefore, take away the talent from this one, and give it to the one who has the ten talents. For to everyone who has, [more] will be given and he will have in abundance. But from the one who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. Throw out the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’” Matthew 25:14-30 That is why Jesus healed on the Sabbath: >Going from that place, he went into their synagogue. And behold, there was a man with a withered hand. Looking for a reason to accuse Jesus, the Pharisees asked him, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath day?” Jesus replied, “Who among you, having one sheep, and if this one falls into a pit on the Sabbath day, will not take hold of it and lift it out? Of how much more value is a man compared to a sheep! Therefore, it is lawful to do what is good on the Sabbath day.” Then he told the man, “Stretch out your hand.” The man stretched it out, and it was restored whole, just like the other hand! But the Pharisees went out and began to conspire against him, [discussing] how they might destroy him. Matthew 12:9-14 According to the strict interpretation of the old testament law what Jesus did was illegal. That's why the Pharisees hated Him since they followed the letter of the law, not the spirit. What they didn't realize was that God Himself demonstrating the actual purpose of the law, to gather broken humanity to Him. The end goal overrides the details. If you don't believe this you may as well set with the Jews, who enforce the law deceitfully to spite the Kingdom.

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>>3041 >"On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." >The law follows these two commandments because God himself made the law we are to follow. The hang in the verse is the same word that is used to describe Jesus hanging on the cross. The law was hung up with Jesus, and died with him, and as a result of his death the new testament was instituted. The old testament was principally required because God in the flesh in the form of Jesus Christ wasn't yet revealed to the world. After the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus the contract has been nullified. >Honestly the entire chapter of James 2 is a massive hit piece against the "only faith is required doctrine." Abraham was called to righteousness before he did anything to merit it: >For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him as righteousness.” Now, to the one who works, the reward is not considered as a grace but as something owed. Romans 4:3-4, Genesis 15:6 >And I already explained that sacrifices have been changed due to Christ's sacrifice. It's not only sacrifices, it's the entire creation that's changed. Your horizon is too short. All the universe and all time, and all action, is the working of God. God judges always and has total knowledge of all things. God isn't contained in human vanities but proceeds above and beyond them: >But will God indeed dwell upon the earth? Even heaven, the highest heaven, cannot contain You, much less this temple I have built. 1 Kings 8:27 >However, the Most High does not dwell in places made with hands, as the prophet says: >'Heaven is my throne,

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